Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
The struts-blank.war at SourceForge is the 1.0 version of the blank application for 1.1. So, the best answer would be blank.war for 1.1 and the struts-blank.war for 1.0. =:0) Of course, if you and Erik wanted to work on struts-xdoclet through the SF site, just send me your SF ids =:0) -Ted. 11/24/2002 7:59:40 PM, Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the Struts Applications project on SourceForge has a blank.war project and there's also struts-blank.war that is distributed with Struts. Which one is best to advertise as a good starting package. I hope to both 1) create an app based on struts advanced features (i.e. exceptions, tiles, validator, DispatchAction) and 2) create a base app with a how to about using XDoclet and a persistence layer using Hibernate or Castor. The hope is that a new project can start with this project (i.e. struts-xdoclet.war) and have ant scripts and samples of how to use Struts with a popular persistence mechanism. I've been discussing this project with Erik Hatcher and my initial thoughts are to hand-code some POJO that generate persistent objects (i.e. using Castor) and ValidatorForms. Even better (or maybe worse), I'm putting myself on a tight deadline for this (i.e. 2-3 weeks) so it resembles a real-world project. Thanks, Matt On Sunday, November 24, 2002, at 02:54 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Yes =:0) Maybe that will finally give Eric a chance to show us what he's been up to =:0) -Ted. 11/23/2002 11:23:41 PM, Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of starting an Xdoclet/Middlegen-based Struts project where (hopefully) most of the code can be generated. Can I start a project within the one below? Thanks, Matt If anyone is interested, I have a Struts project setup at SourceForge that is open to all comers. http://sourceforge.net/projects/struts I wouldn't mind turning this into a Struts commons, where we can all cooperate on developing various extensions to the Struts core. -Ted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) --- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The struts-blank.war at SourceForge is the 1.0 version of the blank application for 1.1. So, the best answer would be blank.war for 1.1 and the struts-blank.war for 1.0. =:0) Of course, if you and Erik wanted to work on struts-xdoclet through the SF site, just send me your SF ids =:0) -Ted. 11/24/2002 7:59:40 PM, Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the Struts Applications project on SourceForge has a blank.war project and there's also struts-blank.war that is distributed with Struts. Which one is best to advertise as a good starting package. I hope to both 1) create an app based on struts advanced features (i.e. exceptions, tiles, validator, DispatchAction) and 2) create a base app with a how to about using XDoclet and a persistence layer using Hibernate or Castor. The hope is that a new project can start with this project (i.e. struts-xdoclet.war) and have ant scripts and samples of how to use Struts with a popular persistence mechanism. I've been discussing this project with Erik Hatcher and my initial thoughts are to hand-code some POJO that generate persistent objects (i.e. using Castor) and ValidatorForms. Even better (or maybe worse), I'm putting myself on a tight deadline for this (i.e. 2-3 weeks) so it resembles a real-world project. Thanks, Matt On Sunday, November 24, 2002, at 02:54 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Yes =:0) Maybe that will finally give Eric a chance to show us what he's been up to =:0) -Ted. 11/23/2002 11:23:41 PM, Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of starting an Xdoclet/Middlegen-based Struts project where (hopefully) most of the code can be generated. Can I start a project within the one below? Thanks, Matt If anyone is interested, I have a Struts project setup at SourceForge that is open to all comers. http://sourceforge.net/projects/struts I wouldn't mind turning this into a Struts commons, where we can all cooperate on developing various extensions to the Struts core. -Ted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) I guess Ted is referring to me :) Erik http://erik.hatcher.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
Oh yes ;) So it's about Struts tools, how can we package a set of Struts tools for Java/XML generation (Struts-XDoclet, EasyStruts, Console). Perhaps we need to create an API based on struts configuration classes (org.apache.struts.config.*) for writing Struts XML/JSP/Java files. This API can be used by differents GUI integrated in most populars IDE (JB,NB,Eclipse,IntelliJ...). This API can be hosted by Struts application project on Sourceforge (or jakarta). -emmanuel http://easystruts.sf.net --- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) I guess Ted is referring to me :) Erik http://erik.hatcher.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
XDoclet already ships with builtin struts-config.xml generation, validatio.xml generation, and Struts form bean generation (from entity beans, and maybe for value objects?). I'm not sure what is needed to make the presentation of this stuff better, but its all there for the taking and works very nicely. It would be good for the Struts pieces to be maintained by the Struts team though. Erik Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Oh yes ;) So it's about Struts tools, how can we package a set of Struts tools for Java/XML generation (Struts-XDoclet, EasyStruts, Console). Perhaps we need to create an API based on struts configuration classes (org.apache.struts.config.*) for writing Struts XML/JSP/Java files. This API can be used by differents GUI integrated in most populars IDE (JB,NB,Eclipse,IntelliJ...). This API can be hosted by Struts application project on Sourceforge (or jakarta). -emmanuel http://easystruts.sf.net --- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) I guess Ted is referring to me :) Erik http://erik.hatcher.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Erik Hatcher wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:11:12 -0500 From: Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts] XDoclet already ships with builtin struts-config.xml generation, validatio.xml generation, and Struts form bean generation (from entity beans, and maybe for value objects?). Based on which Erik makes a pretty interesting case that DynaBeans don't add a tremendous amount of value :-). I still like them as the basis for future work towards more dynamic dynamic form beans, where the set of properties is not predefined, but auto-generation of ActionForm subclasses does indeed reduce the delta value. I'm not sure what is needed to make the presentation of this stuff better, but its all there for the taking and works very nicely. It would be good for the Struts pieces to be maintained by the Struts team though. I think that makes sense as well. Over time, I'd like to see us accumulate low-level generation tools (for both Java code and the appropriate configuration files) specific to Struts in the Struts project itself, and then expose interfaces to easily invoke these tools via command line scripts, Ant/Maven tasks, and/or plugin APIs for IDEs. Erik Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]
I noticed that the Struts Applications project on SourceForge has a blank.war project and there's also struts-blank.war that is distributed with Struts. Which one is best to advertise as a good starting package. I hope to both 1) create an app based on struts advanced features (i.e. exceptions, tiles, validator, DispatchAction) and 2) create a base app with a how to about using XDoclet and a persistence layer using Hibernate or Castor. The hope is that a new project can start with this project (i.e. struts-xdoclet.war) and have ant scripts and samples of how to use Struts with a popular persistence mechanism. I've been discussing this project with Erik Hatcher and my initial thoughts are to hand-code some POJO that generate persistent objects (i.e. using Castor) and ValidatorForms. Even better (or maybe worse), I'm putting myself on a tight deadline for this (i.e. 2-3 weeks) so it resembles a real-world project. Thanks, Matt On Sunday, November 24, 2002, at 02:54 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Yes =:0) Maybe that will finally give Eric a chance to show us what he's been up to =:0) -Ted. 11/23/2002 11:23:41 PM, Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of starting an Xdoclet/Middlegen-based Struts project where (hopefully) most of the code can be generated. Can I start a project within the one below? Thanks, Matt If anyone is interested, I have a Struts project setup at SourceForge that is open to all comers. http://sourceforge.net/projects/struts I wouldn't mind turning this into a Struts commons, where we can all cooperate on developing various extensions to the Struts core. -Ted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
