Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Andre Beskrowni
ok, this one sentence in ted's post caught my eye: I rarely write custom Actions any more. whoah. how is this possible? most of our web pages represent some sort of database operation: displaying, creating, updating, or deleting. i can see how you can minimize the amount of code that would

RE: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Satterwhite, Frank
Can anyone point me to the apis for dynaforms (beans) fs -Original Message- From: Andre Beskrowni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:48 AM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms) ok, this one sentence in ted's post

Re: Struts Tools

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
The Tomcat plugin is quite useful as well. I'm using the SolarEclipse plugin for jsp and xml formatting but it's still in the early stages of development. I like the DBEdit plugin for viewing databases. This is a good site for finding Eclipse plugins:

RE: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Andre Beskrowni
dynabeans: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/beanutils/api/org/apache/commons/beanutils /package-summary.html dynaforms: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/api/org/apache/struts/action/package-summar y.html -Original Message- From: Satterwhite, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/faqs netbeans.xml project.xml newbie.xml

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I think you meant to say JNI instead of JNDI calls to the OS. It's a bit misleading to say it's fast as hell on Windows without mentioning that it runs on Linux as well. SWT is what Swing should have been. Native calls for OS supported widgets, java imitations for other widgets. Dave

RE: bloated docs? [was: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/faqs netbeans.xml project.xml newbie.xml]

2002-11-22 Thread James Mitchell
Yes Sir, you are correct as Mr Karr also pointed out. I'll be committing the complete tutorial later today or first thing tomorrow. So don't worry about changing it for now. As I'm hammering through these screenshots, I hate to think that I will single handedly increase the documentation by 2

RE: bloated docs? [was: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/faqs netbeans.xmlproject.xml newbie.xml]

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I don't think it's illegal to display screenshots of their product in this context. We're not getting any money for this :-). David From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: bloated

pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread Thomas Heller
[ posted to struts-user but i just realized struts-dev might be a better place for this] Hi there, I'm trying to create a form with some pre-filled which either come from a cookie or a database. i browsed the archive and found a comment from Craig where he says the best way to do this is by

Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread Eddie Bush
Thomas Heller wrote: [ posted to struts-user but i just realized struts-dev might be a better place for this] ... actually, it's a struts-user question. Hi there, I'm trying to create a form with some pre-filled which either come from a cookie or a database. i browsed the archive and found

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14730] - bean:write/ does not filter UK pound signs correctly

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Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
The best way to go about this is by creating an enhancement request in bugzilla and attaching a patch to it, not just code. I think your idea is interesting though :-). David From: Thomas Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14774] New: - Extra line in HTML when using tag html:javascript.

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Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Thomas Heller wrote: [ posted to struts-user but i just realized struts-dev might be a better place for this] Hi there, I'm trying to create a form with some pre-filled which either come from a cookie or a database. i browsed the archive and found a comment from

servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Nelson, Laird
Hi; I'm looking at the v1.0.2 ActionServlet's addServletMapping() method, and I'm noticing that it only handles the case where the ActionServlet has one servlet mapping associated with it. But it's legal (is it not?) to establish several servlet mappings for a Servlet under the 2.2 spec, right?

Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Martin Cooper wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:08:36 -0800 (PST) From: Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for

Re: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Nelson, Laird wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:18:16 -0500 From: Nelson, Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2) Hi; I'm looking at the

Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread micael
I have settled on Struts as my application framework, assuming that there will continue to major shifts in the future (like the shift to 1.1 has been, which I like). However, I have not decided on the scripting language, if that is what you want to call it, viz. JSP vs. Velocity or some other

RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Nelson, Laird
-Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Struts currently does not know how to reliably compute URLs for things like html:form in the face of more than one mapping. OK. A subtle point needs to be remembered -- from the client viewpoint, the URL you

Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread Thomas Heller
Hi, I agree with Eddie and Martin that this is probably not a good idea, but for a different reason -- it would violate the layering of the MVC model. Remember that form beans are part of the View tier. Adding a prepare() method for the purposes you propose would typically involve

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I believe the Velocity site has a comparison to JSP. Of course, they like Velocity better. If it's important that new developers be productive immediately I would go with JSP because that's a java standard that they will already know. David From: micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Karr, David
One thing that should be considered is not a technical issue. It's clear that the number of JSP developers is much larger than Velocity developers. That doesn't mean JSP is better than Velocity, but it means that people and training will be more portable when using JSP. Assuming that same

RE: [Unverified Sender] RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Nelson, Laird
-Original Message- From: Nelson, Laird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OK. So not even an extra optional attribute on the form tag somewhere (Use servletPath X instead of servletPath Y), bearing in mind the limitations of our current reporting requirements? Following up my own

RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Nelson, Laird wrote: [snip] There is not going to be a useful workaround for this -- it's fundamental to the nature of the architecture. OK. So not even an extra optional attribute on the form tag somewhere (Use servletPath X instead of servletPath Y), bearing in

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14780] New: - Utility class FIFO name value pair collection

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RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Karr, David wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:08:49 -0800 From: Karr, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests? One thing that should be

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Ted Husted
11/22/2002 1:14:45 PM, micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have settled on Struts as my application framework, assuming that there will continue to major shifts in the future (like the shift to 1.1 has been, which I like). However, I have not decided on the scripting language, if that is what you

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Ted Husted
The idea behind a Struts Action is that it suppose to give you a place to call your business logic components. Rather than call various business processes through a subclass, I continue the decorator pattern by declaring the process to call as part of the ActionMapping. I then use a standard

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
David said: I believe the Velocity site has a comparison to JSP. Of course, they like Velocity better. If it's important that new developers be productive immediately I would go with JSP because that's a java standard that they will already know. also, if you haven't already, be sure you

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Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Craig said: ... For example, here's a simple little loop example in Velocity syntax and a couple approaches in JSP: Velocity: (Note -- it's assumed that the Customer collection has been stored in the VelocityContext by some preceding business logic.) actually, if you are using

Re: RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2)

2002-11-22 Thread Ted Husted
11/22/2002 1:26:45 PM, Nelson, Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is my company unique in trying to do things this way? Probably not, but Struts hasn't been trying to be all things to all people. =:0) It does what the people working on it need it to do, and if it doesn't do what we need, then we

Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Hi, That's not an important question but does the Struts logo was final ? ... if no, what about organize a Struts Logo Competition like other Jakarta project ;) -emmanuel ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran├žais

RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Raible
See comments below... yeah, no offense intended to David Johnson, but that's a really poor way to use Velocity. it looks as though that method is intended to spit out some HTML hardcoded into whatever $macros is or some such thing. the HTML shouldn't come from the java, it should be in

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Nathan Bubna wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:12:19 -0800 From: Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests? Craig said: ... For

Re: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:30:53 +0100 (CET) From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts logo Hi, That's not an important question but does the Struts logo

RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Matt Raible wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:38:02 -0700 From: Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Developers List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests? See

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I've always found it amusing that people are worried about page authors totally screwing up the application by executing arbitrary code. Who are these rogue page authors you're hiring that will destroy your app? We can't pass anything but a value bean with read only properties to this idiot

Re: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
+1 I've always thought the logo could be a bit flashier. How would we pick the winner? A vote by the committers? David From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts logo Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:30:53

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:55:55 -0700 From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests? I've always found it amusing that people are

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Matt said: See comments below... yeah, no offense intended to David Johnson, but that's a really poor way to use Velocity. it looks as though that method is intended to spit out some HTML hardcoded into whatever $macros is or some such thing. the HTML shouldn't come from the java, it

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Craig said: ... Sorry ... I was following an example from a published article (don't remember where) so I presume that it (at least) *used* to be correct :-0. yeah, it may have been right (or closer) once, but not since at least two years ago (when i started using velocity). ... *

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Dave Johnson
David Graham wrote: I've always found it amusing that people are worried about page authors totally screwing up the application by executing arbitrary code. Who are these rogue page authors you're hiring that will destroy your app? What if, for example, you have an e-Commerce catalog and

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
JSP wouldn't be an option anyways because ordinary users wouldn't understand it. The vast majority of situations are not like the one you describe. David From: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Velocity vs.

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Dave Johnson
David Graham wrote: JSP wouldn't be an option anyways because ordinary users wouldn't understand it. The vast majority of situations are not like the one you describe. You are correct. More imporantly, if you are choosing between JSP and Velocity as your Struts View technology then the

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Nathan Bubna wrote: [big snip] #showNavBar( true) Fine ... still looks like a scriptlet to me :-). looks can be deceiving! with a proper velocimacro, the HTML isn't hard-coded into java classes. that may not be important to some folks, but it is to me.

Re: [Roller-development] RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Dave Johnson
No offence taken, but I do have some comments, which are below... yeah, no offense intended to David Johnson, but that's a really poor way to use Velocity. it looks as though that method is intended to spit out some HTML hardcoded into whatever $macros is or some such thing. the HTML

Re: [Roller-development] RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread Nathan Bubna
Dave said: No offence taken, but I do have some comments, which are below... yeah, no offense intended to David Johnson, but that's a really poor way to use Velocity. it looks as though that method is intended to spit out some HTML hardcoded into whatever $macros is or some such thing. the

RE: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread James Mitchell
+1 from me. I'm not an artist by any stretch of the imagination, so I won't be entering any proposals, but I'll sure enjoy seeing the results. Neither am I, but here's a few http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta/images/new-logos/ I prefer the last one, but we might have a few legal issues

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RE: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
LOL, that last one was great. Thanks, David From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts logo Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:36:29 -0500 +1 from me. I'm not an artist by any stretch

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib/logic ForwardTag.java

2002-11-22 Thread rleland
rleland 2002/11/22 22:31:23 Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib/logic ForwardTag.java Log: Bug 13613 Make Forward Tag Module aware. Reported and patched by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Bonanno) Thanks ! Revision ChangesPath 1.13 +10 -4

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RE: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread edgar
I agree but overall very original ;-}... -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:36 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts logo +1 from me. I'm not an artist by any stretch of the imagination, so I won't be