Same as everywhere else. Two houses full of wimps, liars, and opportunists.
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Well, what ki
or if you need to cool your beer *really* fast...
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/
:>Jason
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for people who understand german or french, there is a nice site as well:
http://www.beerculture.com
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Beer is the "demon drink?" Check out
http://brewery.org/brewery/infobase/clublist/us_MD.html.
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I have sampled Portland microbrews when I first came to the states and
before I qu
One that can use the result of a vote to suit their particualr needs. A
dodgy Government?! Must be the only one of its kind in the world
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 09:53, Mark Galbreath wrote:
> Well, what kinda bloody government DO you have?
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>
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> From: Todd Pierce
I concur! When I was in Madrid 2 years ago I drank some of the best wines
I've ever had - and the Sangrias were most excellent! I don't remember any
labels, which gives you an indication of how much of the stuff I drank!
¡Olè!
What about the Oregon and Washington State wines, Craig? Are they go
Well, what kinda bloody government DO you have?
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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:58 PM
>>Aussies send it all up here. You guys still pissed about 1783? 1815?
>>1840? When did you get your own country, anyway?
>Well,
>>Aussies send it all up here. You guys still pissed about 1783? 1815?
>>1840? When did you get your own country, anyway?
>Well, technically it isn't their's. They are members of the British
Commonwealth, so all
Whoa, Trigger. Time for some Australia 101
We may share a figurehead but is Aust
I meant to say at the O'reilly convention.
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:57 AM
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> Craig, are you doing any seminars
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> From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
> Craig, are you doing any seminars/presentations on struts. Is anyone?
Probably not; after all that beer and being so far off the ground he'd
probably fall over. And the audience would probably get neck strains.
Laird
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Craig, are you doing any seminars/presentations on struts. Is anyone?
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:00 PM
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>
No wonder you stopped drinking
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> Sent: 11 February 2003 12:40
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> Although my drinking days are over, I have found
I would never speak to French Canadians ... I have my pride!
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>Tell that to F
Tell that to French speaking Canadians
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Exactly, so they all belong to Britain. The British Empire never really went
away, we
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>They are just as much a part of the Commonwealth as Canada or
>South Africa
>or Nigeria or even Zimbabwe.
>
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They are just as much a part of the Commonwealth as Canada or South Africa
or Nigeria or even Zimbabwe.
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>Aussies send it
O! I wish you wouldn't remind me of that!
Scott
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 23:54, Chappell, Simon P wrote:
> >Aussies send it all up here. You guys still pissed about 1783? 1815?
> >1840? When did you get your own country, anyway?
>
> Well, technically it isn't their's. They are members of t
>Aussies send it all up here. You guys still pissed about 1783? 1815?
>1840? When did you get your own country, anyway?
Well, technically it isn't their's. They are members of the British Commonwealth, so
all their base are belong to the Queen.
>PS Australian beer relieves itself from a great height on all
>American AND British beer ;)
All beer in Australia is "recycled" if you know what I mean. ;-)
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>
>Simon:
>As a southerner, I resemble that remark! (You suh, have
>affronted, I s
nt: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:55 PM
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> Aren't wines from La Rioja from Argentina?
>
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&g
Aren't wines from La Rioja from Argentina?
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My two cents. You have to try the spanish red wines from La Rioja,
R
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> The best California wines in my long flirtation with the nectar are anything
> from Cakebread Cellars, and any cab
at.com> cc:
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*Gasp* You, you mean there's no great watering hole in Walkabout Creek?
That's the only reason I was coming to Oz!
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Good on you Scott, exactly the same as I was about to say, vis:
"
I have friends in Oz, Taz, and New Zealand. I've heard much about this
Coopers Pale Ale; must have someone send me a case!
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Mark, I gotta say Fosters is not a real got representation o
ot;beer-users"
>
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> Oh yeah, like Fosters ("Australian
opers and VB.
They should rename this list "beer-users"
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 2:58 PM
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Oh yeah, like Fosters ("Aust
Mark, I gotta say Fosters is not a real got representation of Oz beer.
It is the foulest amber fluid we have, and then I think they make
another version (which is even worse!!) for you guys!
Kinda like Bud not being a fair representative of all US beers.
Wish you could try Coopers Pale Ale, nice
Oh yeah, like Fosters ("Australian for 'beer'") is a great contribution to
beerdom. That piss is as bad as Budweasel. Of course, that may be why the
Aussies send it all up here. You guys still pissed about 1783? 1815?
1840? When did you get your own country, anyway?
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Simon:
As a southerner, I resemble that remark! (You suh, have affronted, I say
affronted, my sensibilities!) I'll take a glass of sweet iced tea any hot
day. Besides, I do
next door to some of the wines just mentioned (in Napa).
--joe
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> +1
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> >&g
ry 10, 2003 7:54 PM
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+1
>>> "Victor Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/10/03 02:34PM >>>
American beer is devoid of flavor!!?? That's true if you think Bud Light
is the representative of American beer.
You reall
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> >>&
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>The best California wines in my long flirtation with the
>
I'll go just to watch Simon drink a beer!
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American beer is devoid of flavor!!?? That's true if you think Bud Li
nk hot
and with milk in it. What those southerners do to it should be federally prohibited!
Simon
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Drinking warm beer is possible when there is flavour in there in the first
place. Yankee beer is devoid of flavou
>
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>The best California wines in my long flirtation with the
>nectar are anything
>from Cakebread Cellars, and an
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The best California wines in my long flirtation with the nectar are anything
from Cakebread Cellars, and any cabernet sauvignon (Bordeaux grape) from the
Russian River Valley. These vineyards truly rival the
Here, Here, Here. I did not say this as well, but well said (Spec the
CakeBread)
Dan
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I'm a big fan of Rosemount Estates' Cabernet Sauvignon. At about $11 a bottle, it's a
"best value".
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To name a few at my house, but I agree that French wines are better. But
California is getting close. And Australia i
ttribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
> > stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> But we are catch up quickly, just look at the quality of Californian
>wines, they sucked in the 80's and now that are almost as tasty as
>French wines.
I don't think you can "compare" with nice french wines (or you
ely explained by
> stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> And we
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There is no alternative to Rose.
Mark Galbreath
Principal Consultant, Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration
http://www.QAT.com
410-703-367 / 800-799-8545
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Woah, mon ami! I'm a homebrewer and I make some very tasty beverages!
Mark Galbreath
Principal Consultant
Workfl
stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor
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From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:38 AM
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And we all know that in the U.S. that there is no such thing as a good beer!
That is essentially Rose plugged into Eclipse/WSAD 5. Together/J has a
plugin as well for those.
- Robert
Nicolas De Loof wrote:
Perhaps Rational XDE ? ;)
Nico.
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There is no
> >
> > >
> > >
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And we all know that in the U.S. that there is no such thing as a good beer! :-P
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t; >
> >-Dave
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> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Robert McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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&g
ter job of what I use Rose for than Rose does.
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There is no alternative to Rose.
Mark Galbreath
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Thank you.
-Dave
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Perhaps Rational XDE ? ;)
Nico.
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>There is no alternative to Rose.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
>Sent: Monday, February
>10, 2003 10:04 AM
: [OT] Modeling tools
If you have the money, Together/J (www.togethersoft) is my favorite.
It's round trip synch with the source code is absolutely
wonderful. If
you want something less expensive, and you use Eclipse 2.0+,
try Omondo
UML (http://www.omondo.com/). They have free versions and a
You got me on that one, Simon. Truly! There is NO substitute for a large
whiteboard!
Mark Galbreath
Principal Consultant
Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration
http://www.QAT.com
410-703-367 / 800-799-8545
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
stupi
Thank you.
-Dave
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> If you have the money, Together/J (www.togethersoft) is my
ary 10, 2003 9:30 AM
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>
>There is no alternative to Rose.
>
>Mark Galbreath
>Principal Consultant, Workflow Process Engineering and Systems
>Integration
>http://www.QAT.com
>410-703-367 /
If you have the money, Together/J (www.togethersoft) is my favorite.
It's round trip synch with the source code is absolutely wonderful. If
you want something less expensive, and you use Eclipse 2.0+, try Omondo
UML (http://www.omondo.com/). They have free versions and a commercial
license. It
riginal Message-
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Wondering what kind of modeling tools you would recommended. I'm looking
for alternatives to Rational Rose and Posei
Wondering what kind of modeling tools you would recommended. I'm looking for
alternatives to Rational Rose and Poseidon. Thanks.
-Dave
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