: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
If they aren't faster in performance then something is
wrong. All the
JSP rendering practically has to do is put the code as is into the
Servlet which
is a Java class. No interpretation. I haven't looked at the source
but
I
am sure the optimization
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Maybe you could post this to the ECS users group. Scriptlets are fine, but
tend to lend themselves to having lots of lines of code in a page that
doesn't actually generate html, which is tough to read if you are trying to
lay
a href=c:out value='${perms.link}'/
c:out value='${perms.description}'/
/a
/c:otherwise
/c:choose
/c:forEach
/li
/ul
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From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:45 PM
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Bailey, Shane C. wrote:
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Why should build files be composed of tags
You are not alone is questioning the solutions to the view problem.
This is an interesting problem and will really challenge the open source
community to solve it. Right now, everyone has an opinion, no one has a
real solution, each individual users needs are limited (they tend to solve
their
.
:)
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From: Reinhard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So many things are a step backwards like config files for instance. J2EE
is supposed to be for the Enterprise which means
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Just like you never said JSF will replace JSTL I never said I was going to
eat a bunny. ;)
-Tim
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From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think Craig answered this topic about a month ago quite lucidly -
check the archives for the full version, but basically he said if you
have the choice, use JSTL, otherwise don't worry but at some distant
point in the future you will probably have to use JSTL (or whatever else
comes along
Hmm, yeah. I wouldn't hold your breath on that. I mean the JSTL people did
feel the need to include database tags, even though no one really thinks
that's a good idea (if you do, I'm really not interested). Anyways, it's
happy hour, go have a beer (unless you're not in NYC, but I'm not sure if
: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 8, 2003 11:43 AM
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You're right, ant does have $var in it I use my IDE to build
and forgot.
I just think that is a step backwards doing tags that way.
So many
replacement for those step backwards tags.
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--- Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I think
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Bailey, Shane C. wrote:
[Snip]
Why should build files be composed of tags at all? I think Ant is great
too (a lot
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Scriptlets are more powerful (you can do ANYTHING Java can do), faster, is a
standard (it is the Java language you know) and if you are going to spend
time learning a new language (${var} == pooPoo) then you would be better
off learning
Part of the problem is that there are so many ways (none of which are
particularly good compared to .NET) to paint pages in Java land. JSF is
vapor and has a limited window of opportunity and requires REAL industry
support to succeed before the world moves past it. .NET view technology
that is the solution.
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From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:20 PM
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But, what I really meant about JSTL being replaced was in popularity.
JSP tags are being
For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the
struts taglibs or the JSTL taglibs?
Definitely JSTL. They're more powerful, easier to use, potentially
faster, and a Java standard.
not to forget: there's a good chance that (in the future) containers will
have their own
:)
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From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:07 PM
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Everyone take a deep breath and think of bunny rabbits.
Cute little bunnies
()()
('.')
()()
Hmm.. I'm getting
Bailey, Shane C. wrote:
I'm trying state my opinion and learn (from replies).
About the only thing in that statement that I know is verifiably screwed up
is that Ant has no $var and I apologized and rectified what I meant in one
of my recent posts.
Whachu talkin' 'bout Willis?
I hadn't read
If they aren't faster in performance then something is wrong. All the
JSP
rendering practically has to do is put the code as is into the Servlet
which
is a Java class. No interpretation. I haven't looked at the source but
I
am sure the optimization for rendering code for Scriptlets vs
: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:32 PM
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If they aren't faster in performance then something is wrong. All the
JSP
rendering practically has to do is put the code as is into the Servlet
which
is a Java class. No interpretation. I haven't
step backwards tags.
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From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Bailey, Shane C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I think scriptlets are ugly
:21 AM
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Scriptlets are more powerful (you can do ANYTHING Java can do), faster,
is a
standard (it is the Java language you know) and if you are going to
spend
time learning a new language (${var} == pooPoo) then you would
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--- David Thielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi;
For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the
struts taglibs or the JSTL taglibs?
Definitely JSTL. They're more powerful, easier to use, potentially
faster, and a Java
and rectified what I meant in one
of my recent posts.
Whachu talkin' 'bout Willis?
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From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:53 PM
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Bailey, Shane C. wrote:
Scriptlets
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Subject: RE: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
Scriptlets are more powerful (you can do ANYTHING Java can
do), faster, is a
standard (it is the Java language you know) and if you are
going to spend
time learning a new language (${var} == pooPoo) then you
would be better
off learning Java (assuming
So many things are a step backwards like config files for instance. J2EE
is supposed to be for the Enterprise which means there is at least a DB and
maybe the LDAP at your disposal yet people go back to storing stuff in
files.
I don't agree.
You have to think about the time after the rollout
--- David Thielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi;
For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the
struts taglibs or the JSTL taglibs?
Definitely JSTL. They're more powerful, easier to use, potentially
faster, and a Java standard.
David
thanks - dave
--- Yann Cébron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the
struts taglibs or the JSTL taglibs?
Definitely JSTL. They're more powerful, easier to use, potentially
faster, and a Java standard.
not to forget: there's a good chance that
You got me there. lol
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From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:24 PM
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Just like you never said JSF will replace JSTL I never said I was going to
eat
BTW, how could you eat those poor defenseless bunnies
They're very nice in a pie. Bunny stew is also pretty good. ;-)
Simon
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Bailey, Shane C. wrote:
Scriptlets are more powerful (you can do ANYTHING Java can do), faster, is a
standard (it is the Java language you know) and if you are going to spend
time learning a new language (${var} == pooPoo) then you would be better
off learning Java (assuming you don't already
lilly hungie.
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From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 8, 2003 10:22 AM
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BTW, how could you eat those poor defenseless bunnies
They're very nice in a pie. Bunny stew
if you can get rid of that in the JSPs with an
already written or future framework?
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From: Brown, Melonie S. - Contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:26 PM
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I agree
As long as they keep this part of the tag libraries:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2003/jw-0228-jstl-p5.html
JSTL will be an asset to all MVC architectures out there!!!
:-(
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Hi;
For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the struts taglibs or
the JSTL taglibs?
thanks - dave
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The nice thing about those $var style tags is that they are very easy to
read, if you use nice names for things, most people can understand the
relationships and get something out of them. Also these translate well to
my email templates which
Just like you never said JSF will replace JSTL I never said I was going to
eat a bunny. ;)
-Tim
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From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:05 PM
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I like it how some people don't get disturbed by questions about connecting
to a database with JDBC to the Struts user list but get mad if you post a
differing opinion about the crappy way some tags were written that
interfaces with Struts code. What an ACE!
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