Check out Excelon's Stylus.  I looked at their beta
more than a year ago an it was very promising.  I
think it only works for HTML output though.

Calvin

--- "Duffey, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> scriplets are faster from what I understand as
> taglibs require some object
> creation, and they use the PrintWriter for output.
> Scriplets are much uglier
> though..and are much like adding html to servlets.
> Its much harder to
> manage.
> 
> Personally, I prefer using XSL and JSP for dynamic
> XML output. That way,
> scriplets in JSP are for conditional dynamic XML
> output, and XSL handles the
> layout of the site.
> 
> I just wish I could find a tool that could allow gui
> building of pages using
> XSL and XML.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Butler
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:33 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: Help me defend Struts taglibs!!!
> > 
> > 
> > * unified API
> > * consistent behavior, performance
> > * growing industry support
> > * single-point of functionality management
> > 
> > scriptlets tend to be ad-hoc, slap-together and
> > not consistent across all JSPs.
> > 
> > performance-wise, i'm unsure.  i'm don't have
> enough
> > experience in JSPland to know the subtle details,
> but
> > i'm definitely sure that taglibs can be tuned
> whereas
> > scriptlets would have to be handled one-by-one.
> > 
> > just my $0.02 though.  i really believe that most
> java
> > code should vanish from JSPs.  it's a separation
> of
> > church and state sort of belief...  why should UI
> guys
> > have to know any java?
> > 
> > also, of interest, is the jakarta taglibs project
> which
> > has a very interesting XSL taglib which seems to
> have all
> > kinds of potential when thinking about XML...
> > i think craig contributed to it, so there must be
> some
> > struts interest in its functionality.
> > 
> > c
> > 
> > At 09:46 AM 4/26/2001 +0100, Firmin David wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >Members of my team are gradually turning against
> using the 
> > Struts taglibs
> > >and resorting to scriptlets.
> > >IMHO: scriptlets bad,  tags good. I've had more
> experience 
> > in using them
> > >than the others, but I'm finding it difficult to
> fight my 
> > corner in the face
> > >of ever increasing skepticism.
> > >Could anyone out there with really valid
> arguments as to why 
> > the use of the
> > >Struts taglibs (especially the logic tags as
> they're getting 
> > the most grief
> > >from my team at the moment) or taglibs in general
> is "good", 
> > or why the use
> > >of scriptlets is "bad" help me out (in the
> interest of 
> > fairness, vice versa
> > >arguments also happily received!)??
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >David
> > >
> >
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