> Dustin Sallings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 12:10 US/Pacific, Ranko Bijelonic wrote:
>> I'm not sure exactely how it would take more work (provided there
>> were Struts like utils writen one time).
> I kind of read this as, ``Writing web actions without struts isn't
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
For better or for worse, Struts 1.x is going to remain based on Servlet
2.2 and JSP 1.1 as the base technologies,
For the record, I just got back from a training gig with one of the
largest companies on the planet. They are currently standardized on
Servlet 2.2 and JSP
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:51 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
container?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Andrew Hill wrote:
>
>
> all t
July 21, 2003 8:29 PM
> To: Ranko Bijelonic
> Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
> container?
>
>
> Ranko, you could just buy Dynamo or WebSphere or WebLogic - that'll give
> you all you need, tightly integrated
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Andrew Hill wrote:
>
>
> all this great filters in place of ActionServlet direction
>
>
> I could be wrong about that, thats just the impression I get from the posts
> and discussions here and on the dev list. It seems a logical conclusion
> though.
>
Herein lies one of t
hi ranko,
i guess i have not able to portray it properly.
What i intend to say is if you have ranko framework, use that. why do you
need struts then as Ranko framework will be almost equivalent to struts. And
if you make Ranko open source, people may start taking benefit from the good
programming
t; Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet container?
>
>
> Struts is becoming kind of self
> sufficient where everything is done through it even if it already can be
> done through something else. Its like a little container itself.
>
>
> There is a c
seems a logical conclusion
though.
-Original Message-
From: Ranko Bijelonic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:52
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
container?
ok, where do I get the info on all of this? all
stion).
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:46 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
container?
IIRC the struts datasource support has been deprecated now for that very
reason (suppli
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You are right, Struts did provide a lot of features that have been since
widely adopted. I did not mean to be dismissive of Struts here, i was more
Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:49 PM
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> > Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
> > container?
> >
> >
> > for my $0.02.
> >
> >Using just pure servlet and b
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Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
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Its not so much paving of one's own roads, but recongnizing that the roads
have been paved already :). I'm not suggesting redoing what Struts does,
what I'm saying is that Sturts is r
#x27;m looking for the reasons why this would not be the case.
> >
> > Are you looking for where using the base Sevlet layer is more
> > advantageous
> > over using Struts? Or, are you looking for areas that Struts just
> > doesn't
> > handle, leaving a gaping
lar to that of a servlet
container?
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To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jing
Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Struts
filters, events,
or request/response wrappers with Struts? I'm just wondering.
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From: Jing Zhou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:46 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
containe
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like that.
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To: Ranko Bijelonic; Struts Users Mailing List
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:03 PM
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When are distributed objects
comming? :). just kidding :)
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I think the one thing that hasn't
ts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Jing Zhou"
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Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet container?
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:03:31 -0400
>It is my understanding that the servlet spec, jsp spec, and jsf spec are
>rega
>It is my understanding that the servlet spec, jsp spec, and jsf spec are
>regarded
>as the framework of frameworks (a kind of interpretation of mine) Struts
>action mapping is designed in Struts way. If the struts-config.xml is
merged
>into the web.xml, a lot of other frameworks would not happy :-
On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 12:10 US/Pacific, Ranko Bijelonic wrote:
You could certainly code each Action as a Servlet but it would take
more
work.
I'm not sure exactely how it would take more work (provided there were
Struts like utils writen one time).
I kind of read this as, ``Writing web act
> > way of utility classes.
> > > > Have that Filter that autopopulates, check for
> > > > correct types like Struts.
> > > >
> > > > >3. tile framework
> > > > You can use it without Struts
> > > >
> > >
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From: "Ranko Bijelonic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet container?
> ok. assume i go thr
ispatch the request
> to it" point of view, we
> still have Struts and the servlet container itself
> :).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sandeep Takhar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
>
would not be the case.
> >
> > Are you looking for where using the base Sevlet layer is more
> > advantageous
> > over using Struts? Or, are you looking for areas that Struts just
> > doesn't
> > handle, leaving a gaping hole? Are you being persnickity
nt of view, we
still have Struts and the servlet container itself :).
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From: Sandeep Takhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:39 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
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If you've b
more
effective way of changing things for the better.
David
>
> ranko
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework s
come about does not address the specific
> question of wheter this
> particular framework duplicates a lot of
> functionality of its parent
> environment.
>
> Either way, thanks for trying :).
>
> ranko
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Navjot Singh [mailto:
es like form population, etc would need to be added there).
ranko
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> containe
> Thanks for the help,
>
> ranko
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sandeep Takhar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of
> a servlet
> contain
ed by Struts. Again, its a
> general
> question, I have no pressing need that needs to be addressed. Thanks.
>
> ranko
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subj
be addressed. Thanks.
ranko
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet and base JSP, dealing
ready solved. I'm looking
for the reasons why this would not be the case. Thanks for the help,
ranko
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From: Sandeep Takhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:21 AM
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I guess the main difference between what you mention
and struts is that you can use this stuff right away
for the app you want to build wi
lity of its parent
environment.
Either way, thanks for trying :).
ranko
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:28 AM
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hi ranko,
As
ils).
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|Sandeep,
|You mentioned role based actions in your list... which has caught my eye.
|Can you p
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hi,
No doubt, they are vaguely the same.
After all STRUTS is based on container. BUT struts make your life EASY.
How? By providing scalable and reusable code - base principle of frameworks.
1. Frameworks are the semi-complete
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there's a lot of stuff it gives you out of the box.
1. solid code
2. validation framework
3. tile framework
4. auto-population framework
5. role based actions
6. xml configuration of all the links or actions of
your application
7. best practices framework bundling (scaffolding)
complete with examp
hi,
No doubt, they are vaguely the same.
After all STRUTS is based on container. BUT struts make your life EASY.
How? By providing scalable and reusable code - base principle of frameworks.
1. Frameworks are the semi-complete applications. They are standardized
answer to the very common set of r
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