RE: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-08 Thread dion
://www.multitask.com.au/NetRexx.nsf - Forwarded by dIon Gillard/Multitask Consulting/AU on 09/03/2001 01:32 AM - RE: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP But, the point of what I am trying to say (and I will try to clarify it further in the document) is that by using Struts and JSP

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-06 Thread Wong Kok Wai
So far, the arguments have been based on whether it is better for the page designer or Java developer. How about performance? IHMO, it would be interesting to find out the timing for each of the three approaches. I would agree with the Velocity's author that JSP taglibs is no much better than

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Jon Stevens
Yea! Great feedback! I will reply in more detail soon. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Jon Stevens
Niall, This is *excellent* feedback. I really appreciate it and look forward to working with you on this. My replies are included below. I hope you enjoy. I am currently queuing up a bunch of responses so that I can go through and update the document with feedback like yours. on 3/4/01 11:55

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Jon Stevens
I'm going through the document and making some changes based on yours (and others) suggestions and I have a question: on 3/4/01 11:55 AM, "Niall Pemberton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read your comparison of Turbine/Velocity and Struts/JSP and although you state it your aim to be "fair and

RE: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Niall Pemberton
: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP I'm going through the document and making some changes based on yours (and others) suggestions and I have a question: on 3/4/01 11:55 AM, "Niall Pemberton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read your comparison of Turbine/Velocity

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Martin Cooper
Niall's revised example is *almost* right. Here's a fixed version of it: html headtitleHello/title/head body h1 % if (request.getParameter("name") == null) % Hello World % else % Hello, %= request.getParameter("name") % /h1 /body/html The difference is that in order to print

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread james . webster
A question I have... is it feasible at all to use Velocity as the presentation mechanism with a Struts MVC framework? Regards, James W. -- This e-mail is from Cards Etc Pty Ltd (ACN: 069 533 302). It may contain privileged

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Ted Husted
I think it might be. Basically, Velocity renders the output, and passes it back. When used with a WebApp, the Velocity engine gets wrapped in a servlet, which pipes the output to the browser. From Strut's viewpoint, it wouldn't be any different than rendering a PDF or GIF. You just pass null back

Re: You make the decision Velocity/Turbine vs. Struts/JSP

2001-03-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question I have... is it feasible at all to use Velocity as the presentation mechanism with a Struts MVC framework? The simple answer is "of course". The forward mechanism can easily forward to a servlet that displays the appropriate Velocity template, or your