Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Foong Tzer
Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still not digest-able by average graphic designers. I mean, if they were to use Macromedia

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread vellosa
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Gemes Tibor
2002. november 25. 14:49 dátummal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ezt írtad: Haha! This whole idea of J2EE where we have seperation of roles hasn't quite happened has it. The idea that there are business process programmers, database programmers, front end guys etc. In the end it's always the same person

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Foong Tzer
: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still not digest-able by average graphic

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Brian Hickey
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Haha! This whole idea of J2EE where we have seperation of roles hasn't quite happened has it. The idea that there are business process

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Cyber.Zombie
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Arron Bates
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Chappell, Simon P
www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -Original Message- From: Cyber.Zombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:11 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? My last

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Foong Tzer
PROTECTED] date:Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:31:26 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Míguel Ángel Mulero Martínez
Mailing List; Struts Users Mailing List Asunto: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Daniel H. F. e Silva
Hi Foong, After some headaches and some experience, i do the following: 1 - We (developers and programmers) write a clear requirement doc about a graphical interface, with all data that will be displayed, data type and this kind of stuff. 2 - Our designers develop all graphical interface

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread vellosa
pages with a table in the middle ;) Brian Cheers IV - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Haha! This whole idea of J2EE where we have

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Chappell, Simon P
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? snip FWIW, graphic design and Java development generally use different

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Joe Germuska
This is an interesting thread, as we have a lot of challenges working with our artists to create JSPs for use with Struts. Of course, I would suggest that the issue has little to do with Struts, and a lot to do with the state of JSP tools. I think that JSP 2.0 and Java Server Faces (JSF) both

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2002-11-25 Thread micael
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still not digest-able by average graphic designers. I mean

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Chappell, Simon P wrote: If Craig felt that was good enough for the struts-example, then my goodness, it's good enough for me! ;-) As I've said a couple of times, struts-example is pretty much my resume documenting my GUI design skills. Good thing I know a little Java

Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread micael
], [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? Dear Struts supporter, There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still

RE: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

2002-11-25 Thread Todd Pierce
Subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse? The answer is below. That is really it. Let them build the GUI, then you massage it. That is the easiest way to go about things. If someone has something better, I don't know it. This way of doing things is pretty easy. The backend