Re: Release date for struts1.1
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:20:21 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Release date for struts1.1 Are features frozen? Are bugs all that is left? As far as I'm concerned, the answer to both questions is yes. That doesn't mean that absolutely *no* little feature improvements will make it in, but anything large or potentially destabilizing will likely not get included. Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Releases in Open Source (was RE: Release date for struts1.1)
At 8:52 AM -0700 2002/10/15, Sharon Tam wrote:
Yes, I will be forced to revert to strut1.0 if the struts1.1
released version is not available
That's really not a good idea. Whoever would pronounce such a rule
is very ignorant of the life cycle of open source projects. There
are certainly bugs in the version of Struts tagged as the 1.0
release, and some of them may be significant (I'm postulating, I
haven't looked.) Furthermore, there are substantial changes in the
Struts model available only with the Struts 1.1 branch. In fact, one
could probably call the nightly builds something like Struts 1.5,
especially now that discussions seem to indicate that there won't be
a lot more features added to any 1.x Struts.
The structural changes to Struts 1.1 are very valuable
(sub-applications or modules, much more functionality in the tag
libraries, declarative Exception handling, ... everyone's got their
favorites.) It would be a mistake to invest a lot of energy now
starting a project at Struts 1.0. The 1.1 code base is very stable,
and we run several production applications on it at my place of
employment.
The most productive way to think of open source software is as an
extension of your locally developed code base, rather than as a
product that you might purchase. No doubt code you and your team
develop goes through incremental fixes and improvements -- so do all
open source projects. If you happen to identify bugs in open source
code, you are completely at liberty to fix them, and even contribute
your fixes back to the community.
Plus, compared to many open source projects, Struts has the benefit
of a top-notch team of lead committers who are dedicated to high
quality and good design. Most independent web application shops
would be lucky to have one or two people writing code locally that's
as good as the core of Struts.
Just go ahead and use it. Releases don't mean the same thing in open
source as they do in commercial software.
Joe
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RE: Release date for struts1.1
sigh/ Ive answered this so many times but once again here it is: The 12th of April 2156 at 15:28 in the afternoon. Or perhaps even sooner if its ready before then... ;-) -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 23:41 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 grinning/.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
grinning/.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
There is no release date. It will be (I have read many times on this list !) be released when the contributors decide that it is of high enough quality to be released. :) -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 October 2002 16:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
Yes, I will be forced to revert to strut1.0 if the struts1.1 released version is not available James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com
Re: Release date for struts1.1
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/kickstart.html#release From: Sharon Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release date for struts1.1
If you really want to see 1.1 Final arrive sooner rather than later, the best thing you can do is run through Bugzilla, find bugs, and submit patches for them. This isn't Microsoft. The release will happen when the issues are cleared - not before. Sharon Tam wrote: Yes, I will be forced to revert to strut1.0 if the struts1.1 released version is not available James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release date for struts1.1
LOL :-D Chappell, Simon P wrote: You ain't from around here are you? -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
LOL.I was trying to be so obviousLOL James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 You ain't from around here are you? -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
Oops, God I cant type today... that was supposed to be: trying NOT to be so obvious James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:14 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 LOL.I was trying to be so obviousLOL James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 You ain't from around here are you? -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Release date for struts1.1
Subtlety is not one of my strong points. Fortunately, reading the VERY clear FAQ on the Struts website is! ;-) Simon -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:17 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 Oops, God I can't type today... that was supposed to be: trying NOT to be so obvious James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:14 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 LOL.I was trying to be so obviousLOL James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Release date for struts1.1 You ain't from around here are you? -Original Message- From: Sharon Tam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release date for struts1.1 Hi, Anyone knows when the released date for struts1.1 would be??? Thanks in advance! - Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, more faith.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release date for struts1.1
Are features frozen? Are bugs all that is left? Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/15/2002 12:05:22 PM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Release date for struts1.1 If you really want to see 1.1 Final arrive sooner rather than later, the best thing you can do is run through Bugzilla, find bugs, and submit patches for them. This isn't Microsoft. The release will happen when the issues are cleared - not before. Sharon Tam wrote: Yes, I will be forced to revert to strut1.0 if the struts1.1 released version is not available James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release date for struts1.1
yes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Release date for struts1.1 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:20:21 -0400 Are features frozen? Are bugs all that is left? Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/15/2002 12:05:22 PM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Release date for struts1.1 If you really want to see 1.1 Final arrive sooner rather than later, the best thing you can do is run through Bugzilla, find bugs, and submit patches for them. This isn't Microsoft. The release will happen when the issues are cleared - not before. Sharon Tam wrote: Yes, I will be forced to revert to strut1.0 if the struts1.1 released version is not available James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:.you sure you want to know? James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org -- Eddie Bush -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
