Re: [PLEASE VOTE] so what should we be working on

Hi Dirk, On 28.05.2016 23:37, Dirk Hohndel wrote: I have been focused on other things for a while (and the why and the what will become public fairly soon) and decided to use that chance to figure out what would happen if I just stopped paying attention here for a while. Here's what I think

Re: [PLEASE VOTE] so what should we be working on

On 30.05.2016 15:34, Robert Helling wrote: I realize that “just keep going” and keeping the status quo also has a lot of costs (not only financially) mainly on Dirk’s side. Off the top of my head are 1) Running the git server, accepting and pushing patches 2) Running (and keeping up to

Re: two kirigami issues

Hi Dirk, just so you know: Marco is currently unavailable, so it might take a bit for him to reply. Cheers, Thomas ___ subsurface mailing list subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface

Re: Android alpha -833 with experimental mobile components change

Hi Rick, thank you for the feedback! See my replies inline. On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 08:17:04 CET Rick Walsh wrote: > I've had a very little play with this in the time it takes to eat my > breakfast. Tested on a Galaxy S6 - a reasonably large phone, but > definitely not tablet/phablet

Re: Android alpha -832 with experimental mobile components change

On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 06:50:00 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:38:28AM +0100, Jan Mulder wrote: > > On 11-02-16 20:34, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > >Since many of us were not in love with the ActionButton and the way it > > >was used to interact with the application, Marco

Re: Subsurface-mobile for Android -845

On Samstag, 13. Februar 2016 10:35:50 CET Henrik Brautaset Aronsen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Henrik Brautaset Aronsen < > > subsurf...@henrik.synth.no> wrote: > > Just a couple of things: The title bar is too cramped now. Other apps use > > that to display info on the current

Re: Subsurface-mobile for Android -845

On Samstag, 13. Februar 2016 09:57:21 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > Hi! I think it looks pretty decent now. I like that there is less > > clutter. > Yay! Yay++ > > Just a couple of things: The title bar is too cramped now. Other apps use > > that to display info on the current context. We

Renaming Plasma Mobile Components and design philosophy to Kirigami

Dear Subsurface (mobile) team, about two weeks ago, Marco came to the VDG (KDE's design group) asking for a new name for Plasma Mobile Components. The reasoning behind this request was that with them becoming their own KDE framework and Subsurface mobile showing that they work very well outside

Re: Plasma Mobile Components -> Kirigami (?)

On Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2016 23:33:45 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:52:08PM +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > It is physical, it is creative, kinda playful without being childish, > > > > and > > > > it's far less common than

Re: Android build 864

On Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 09:48:09 CET Adric Norris wrote: > It's not very discoverable, however, when the thing is almost invisible. I > really think the "once you know its there" path is a bad approach, and will > rub new users the wrong way. That being said, it's really not my call so I >

Re: Design question on "delete dive" [was: Re: new beta and new alpha]

On Sonntag, 21. Februar 2016 11:24:46 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > On Feb 20, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > >> I was a bit disappointed not to be able to delete my bogus dives from > >> Subsurface-mobile. Would that be hard to implement?> > > This I don't think I'll

Re: Android alpha -832 with experimental mobile components change

On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 08:55:29 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > So I'd say that the duplicated controls actually do cause "harm". > > > This is a point where you have to decide: > Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. > But that causes this question to become MUCH harder. > It's the

Re: Androind build -900

On Dienstag, 1. März 2016 12:10:13 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 11:26:48AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2016 7:35 AM, "Dirk Hohndel" wrote: > > >. The undo stack has depth ONE, so only the last delete can be > > > > > > undone and only within

Re: Subsurface-mobile on iOS UI design questions

On Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:37:11 CET Marco Martin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: > > You can put "Dive list" in the global drawer to quickly go back there if > > you don't have a context drawer everywhere

Re: Subsurface-mobile for Android first release

On Saturday, 12 March 2016 07:49:13 CET you wrote: > > What exactly is the problem? Does it not draw the content fast enough > > while > > scrolling? Or is it about blank space at the very end of the list? > > ___ > > subsurface mailing list > >

Re: Subsurface-mobile on iOS UI design questions

On Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:54:41 CET Pablo Wolter wrote: > What about scrolling to the left with the finger as you do when browsing on > iOS devices to go back and to the right to move forward? > > I don't know how this will work for abort/cancel that you mentioned though. Actually, Pablo is

Re: Subsurface-mobile for Android first release

On Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:32:43 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > I'm sure there are dozens more formats that we could parse. Fundamentally we > need a date and time picker control for QML (but I haven't been able to > find either). I just talked to Marco about this. There is a calendar component

Re: Subsurface-mobile for Android first release

On Friday, 11 March 2016 06:58:17 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > Scroll to bottom of dive list. > > * Same problem as previously reported: parts of screen is white. > > This is worse if one scrolls rapidly. > > This is either a QML problem or a Kirigami problem. We have nothing in our >

Re: Meeting at QtCon?

On Montag, 4. April 2016 16:33:10 CEST Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 4 de abril de 2016 16:27:37 PDT Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 01:23:27AM +0200, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > is anyone of you maybe somewhere aroun

Re: Developing and Deploying devices

On Dienstag, 12. April 2016 07:58:04 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > What I suggested to them is that CHIP should ship with an open > WiFi access point running and a web server to connect to and > then a simple web interface where you enter a URL from which > a package is then installed. Super easy

Re: TestFlight feedback for Subsurface-mobile.

On Montag, 11. April 2016 10:31:47 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 06:07:07PM +0100, Jaspal Sahota wrote: > > Crash when switch back to app. > > Make an edit to an existing dive (I changed dive location) > > Save > > Switch to phone home screen > > Switch back to app (quickly,

Re: cloud connection timeout

On Dienstag, 22. März 2016 21:34:30 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > So in all honesty - I'm not sure what the right answer is here. I don't > think that a "several minutes" sync time is useful at all. That's why we > have the local cache. The problem is... how do we get people to do the > first sync

Re: Subsurface iOS beta testing - now much easier

On Freitag, 25. März 2016 20:14:44 CET John Smith wrote: > Slight annoyances are that the left and right bottom slides can be a little > difficult to catch properly. The right slide will often bring up the iPad > right hand slide - displaying the calendar. Interesting point for Kirigami. Any idea

Re: Androind build -900

On Dienstag, 1. März 2016 07:35:16 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Apparently I forgot to post about this yesterday. How odd. > > Anyway, I implemented Thomas' idea of a timed undo dialog for the delete > action. Please give it some testing. I tried all the scenarios I could > think of (including

Re: Kirigami design question (iOS users, please read)

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 18:05:56 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > The feedback was "menus are unusual" and "having the 'back' function in a > menu feels like being different just to be different". And in general most > iOS users asked for more buttons on the screen, several sending screen > shots

Re: Subsurface-mobile port to Kirigami 1.0

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 23:05:04 CEST you wrote: > Marco, Thomas, > > I merged the port to Kirigamit 1.0 on top of latest master, but I'm > hesitant to push out test binaries for iOS or Android as this brings a lot > of regressions right now. I'm not quite sure how to handle this given that

Re: Subsurface-mobile port to Kirigami 1.0

On Freitag, 1. April 2016 16:02:10 CEST you wrote: > > is familiar with a similar component in ios and currently going in/out the > > edit mode changes the whole screen "magically" without any transition, > > that is usually not recommended in mobile applications. > > Not sure I understand what

Re: iOS beta testing

On Mittwoch, 30. März 2016 07:31:04 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > When I'm entering new information it could be nice to be able to choose > > from a drop down - say for things like your buddy/suit etc. to save typing > > their name in each time. The same with the date - can there be a scroll > >

Re: Subsurface-mobile testing update

On Dienstag, 29. März 2016 22:29:07 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > While the two new builds are crawling through the painfully slow upload / > processing, err, process, here's a quick heads up on -1136(Android) and > -1138(iOS - don't ask). > > Linus suggested an intersting change that I had briefly

Re: Kirigami design question (iOS users, please read)

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 07:09:40 CEST you wrote: > > In the current Kirigami version, the symbols for the global and context > > drawer were changed to match those on Android, but that's just a detail. > > Just a thought... please remember that one of the MAJOR draws of Kirigami > is the

Re: [PATCH] Re: Kirigami design question

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 15:38:05 CEST Willem Ferguson wrote: > Be careful. Ideally zoom in and zoom out should be used to zoom into the > profile image itself. If zooming is used for other purposes it becomes > more difficult to implement a real zoom facility on the dive profile at a >

Re: iOS UI-Ideas

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 16:02:52 CEST Jürgen Frank wrote: > Dive-List view: swiping left on a dive to get the usual delete-button > at the > right This behavior is already implemented in Kirigami (though with a handle on the right which has to be swiped to the left), so

Re: [PATCH] Re: Kirigami design question

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 13:23:16 CEST you wrote: > > Alternatively (if that is possible with QML), we could zoom out on the > > image if the pinch gesture was started within the image, and zoom out to > > the list only if it was started elsewhere in the profile. > > See my previous email. At

Re: iOS UI-Ideas

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 19:30:32 CEST you wrote: > Is there a possibility that a tap or double tap on the blue subsurface bar > at the top of the window can used to mean "back"? > Kind regards, willem The version of Kirigami that Subsurface-mobile will be ported to soon contains a component

Re: Subsurface-mobile port to Kirigami 1.0

On Freitag, 1. April 2016 16:27:41 CEST you wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 11:17:03PM +0200, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Freitag, 1. April 2016 16:02:10 CEST you wrote: > > > > is familiar with a similar component in ios and currently going in/out > > > &

Meeting at QtCon?

Hi everyone, is anyone of you maybe somewhere around Germany in the first week of September? If so, it would be great if we could meet at QtCon [1] in Berlin, which is surely an interesting conference for Subsurface contributors, and we could talk about Subsurface-mobile and Kirigami (or

Re: Kirigami design question

On Mittwoch, 30. März 2016 21:06:21 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Thomas, > Based on some of the feedback we have been getting from testers on iOS > (I'm sure you have seen some of it here) I have been wondering if we > should consider a change to the Kirigami design... > > Right now the bottom

Re: [PATCH 10/12] Grab the payload of DL7 file

On Montag, 25. April 2016 09:49:47 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 09:43:44AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Miika Turkia wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > >>

Re: [PATCH] WIP: use kirigami plugin instead of embedding in qrc

On Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016 11:03:45 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > So Kirigami requires ECM. and KF5Plasma. and that requires KF5Activities. > Which requires Boost. And KF5. > > I think at this point we need to talk about scope. > > No, it is not reasonable to assume that I want to build all of KDE

Re: RFC: Dive site UI

On Montag, 18. April 2016 10:24:53 CEST Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > Still be powerfull for power users, but simple by default. Aaah, I always love it when people insert the motto of the KDE design team into a conversation, goes to show how much sense it makes for people :)

Re: RFC: Dive site UI

On Montag, 18. April 2016 09:11:54 CEST Henrik Brautaset Aronsen wrote: > Here's a proposal to simplify the dive site UI: > > > When editing a dive: > > 1) Disable inline editing of dive site name. This avoids confusion around > "rename dive site" vs "choose existing dive site with a different

Re: Kirigami: a feature needed for subsurface and api change feedback

On Dienstag, 19. April 2016 04:39:34 CEST Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:19 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 19 April 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > >>> the look and behavior of buttons can be tested and adjusted (that > >>> shouldn't involve further API

Re: Dive into science

On 25.07.2016 01:31, Pedro Neves wrote: Hi all: I've just came across this project that aims to collect data on ocean water temperatures from diving enthusiasts via their dive computers. The project has a simple *.csv template for divers to submit their info

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Shrink the minimum size for preferences window

On 25.07.2016 14:07, Miika Turkia wrote: Let's have the preferences window as small as possible with the current data in it. This should allow people with vertical resolution of 600 to use the preferences window. Just a little input from a designer: Although I haven't seen the new layout in

Re: Subsurface-mobile status update

On 14.08.2016 06:29, Dirk Hohndel wrote: I still haven't managed to make the latest Kirigami work. And I don't think I'll finish that today as I'm jet lagged and about to fall asleep on my keyboard. But at least our iOS testers should be able to continue to use Subsurface-mobile. Btw:

Re: [PATCH] Fix kirigami build

On 17.08.2016 18:50, Anton Lundin wrote: This fixes the subsurface-mobile build on my Linux desktop and on android. To get it to run on Linux desktop, set QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE to something that kirigami doesn't know about, like kakor. Otherwise it will detect Desktop and die on: