Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * At *very* high level the patch sets looks sane. I would be comfortable with them going in if Scott reviews Martin set, and Martin

Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 01:23:57PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * At *very* high level the patch sets looks sane. I would be

Re: [sugar] [Telepathy] ANNOUNCE: telepathy-salut 0.3.5 released

2008-09-18 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008 à 20:14 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit : For those not on the Telepathy list... And as said, on #8441 there is a backport of this fix in the rpm package which seems to fix the issue. -- Forwarded message -- From: Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL

[sugar] Sugar-meeting REMINDER (Thursday September 18 2008 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2008-09-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
---Topics--- * keep on reviewing the list we have at ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals ---Note--- we want to hand out roadmap items to people if possible. So would be nice if the developers interested would join. Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list

[sugar] Reviews report

2008-09-18 Thread Release Team
= Approved requests = to improve activity switching performance only take screenshots on activity save and close http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8432 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 04:05:26AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * At *very* high level the patch sets looks sane. I would be comfortable with them going in if Scott reviews Martin set, and Martin reviews Scott

[sugar] Sugar oversight board meeting reminder

2008-09-18 Thread Walter Bender
Friday at 14:00UTC (10AM EST) icr.freenode.net #sugar-meeting The major topics will be follow ups on the various committees established at the last meeting. We'll also be discussing funding models and opportunities. (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes for

[sugar] Design Meeting REMINDER (Thursday September 18, 2008 @ 15.30 UTC) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2008-09-18 Thread Eben Eliason
Today will mark the first biweekly design meeting on IRC. I hope to see you there. Topics: * Visual clipboard API * Advancing the Journal * Thoughts on some icons - Eben ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 23:54, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early as next week. Its not definitive but we want your input on what we should

Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: String addtions ?? Now ?? Three words: Triangle, Box, and Spiral. I wonder if a compromise version of the patch might remove all the words and just use icons for the three different layouts. The words don't actually

Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:57 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do my review but Scott need not worry about mine since my patches are already in 0.82.1[1] and 8.2-758[2]. Hm, I'm actually a bit

[sugar] Sugar-meeting MINUTES (Thursday September 18 2008 - 14.00 (UTC))

2008-09-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
We made good progress on reviewing the list we have at ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals * assigned owners and peers to all groups * started to assign owners to each feature You can find the orphaned items under ''Unassigned'' in each section. Give them a home! Thanks, Simon

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Please pick up to 10 and put them in order of priority. We will tally the votes and use that as input to the decision. So, we shipped 19 activities with G1G1v1; that means the ten activities people vote for here are likely to be a subset of that list, and we aren't learning much

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I noticed in the new help activity there is an activity sampler of 21 activities. Are these going to be shipped? - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Finale: consider merging a few fun Sugar patches?

2008-09-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:54 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: String addtions ?? Now ?? Three words: Triangle, Box, and

[sugar] Design Meeting MINUTES (Thursday September 18, 2008 @ 15.30 UTC)

2008-09-18 Thread Eben Eliason
Our first design meeting was a bit more technical than anticipated, but we did make some progress. Minutes can be found here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DesignTeam/Meetings#Thursday_September_18.2C_2008_-_15.30_.28UTC.29 Thanks to all that participated! - Eben

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) applications like firefox will need to be modified so that they set the _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_APPLICATION hint (ideally we would like to run the applications unmodified). The idea would be that applications would just

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: The simplest way to do this is mentioned in the draft, namely, to have a new _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE hint, called _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NETBOOK_APP (feel free to suggest a better name :-P). I do not understand at all why _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_FULLSCREEN is insufficient.

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: | ... _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_FULLSCREEN ... That should be _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN. Oops, Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys-3.0.2153

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2153.tar.gz * enable Pango for unknown locales (#8530) * fix composite character input (#8531) * fix camera not working in some locales (#8540) * releases sound device in WorldStethoscope (#8541) * preserve meta data in Journal

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: The simplest way to do this is mentioned in the draft, namely, to have a new _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE hint, called _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NETBOOK_APP (feel free to suggest a better name :-P). I

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of our activities have a separate fullscreen mode. Take a look at the two screenshots of record: Fullscreen: http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/sugar_metacity/Captura%20de%20pantalla_1.png Normal:

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: | However, though we do not always show frames (or panels), there are | some environments which show at least a single panel all the time (eg: | Ubuntu Netbook Remix). In those cases, fullscreen might mean that | frame may

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In summary, I believe we can safely move to a lightly patched Metacity while tagging our windows purely according to the EWMH. That would mean to make Sugar impossible to use on a standard distribution. Marco

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: | On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In summary, I believe we can safely move to a lightly patched Metacity | while tagging our windows purely according to the EWMH. | | That

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread genesee
Howdy. This G1G1v1 user's top ten list: 1. Help (wish it was on my xo when I first got it) 2. Terminal 3. Browse (with Adobe Flash not Gnash) 4. Write (with keybindings mod to AbiWord) 5. Develop 6. Read 7. Pippy 8. E-Toys 9. News Reader 10. xoIRC Bubbling under the top ten are the stand alone

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps correcting http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial would help? Good point -- done, at least for host_version and bundle_id. As it happens the actually published HelloWorld activity is one of the worst