Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
If XO sales are so unrestricted, why can't I buy one at laptop.org? Are you willing to buy 100 or more? Willing? Yes. Able? No. Are you willing to let free-market capitalism drive a not-for-profit project aimed at developing nations? Be realisitic. Our software isn't customizable beyond

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread david
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN and Microsoft. What does this agreement equate to? And what are the alternatives to Microsoft? If the

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN and Microsoft. What does this agreement equate to? And what are the

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Jim Gettys
Ah, Windows needs more than 1GB to be useful; so to run Windows you need to pay extra for a SD card big enough to hold it. Doesn't add any cost for Linux, which fits nicely on the internal 1GB flash. - Jim On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 02:57 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Bobby Powers
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
He's not declaring a policy of ethical inaction. He made an announcement called Microsoft wherein he describes an OLPC-supported firmware modification that will allow Windows to boot on the XO-1. He p it to an OLPC mailing list. He then claimed no OLPC resources would be devoted to the

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/5/16 Steve Holton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Walter Bender on his own and dedicated to bringing Sugar to every machine on a FOSS stack, and all OLPC produced software being safely GPL'ed, I feel confident that Sugar can beat

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
...and to which the free software (linux) community would respond with a reverse engineering effort, at it's own (collective) expense, and rather quickly have a solution. If turnabout is fair play, let Microsoft adopt the free software community response as well. The golden rule doesn't

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Fox
seth wrote: Of course. Sugar is not dead, just OLPC. That's why the fork occurred. Sugarlabs isn't a fork. The code bases are still the same and aren't going to change. It's more like upstream sources now. Or a forking of management, not code. devil's advocate: how would

Re: [sugar] [support-gang] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
devil's advocate: how would someone on the outside (of either OLPC, or sugarlabs) know that that is the case? all that has happened (from the public view of things) is that this new wiki has sprung up, claiming essentially that this is where sugar lives. there's been no announcement