Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-14 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a user interface designed for engaging children in the world of

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These issues could best be solved by a sugar-webcontent-activity package which is shipped by default. It would contain the Browse GUI classes plus a template Activity class. It would also provide a base WebServer class

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Do we have any proposals of changes to Sugar so it better supports learning in light of the reflections on narrative? It seems to me that implementation of a Sugar batch language would address 'providing a sequence (or graph) of events'. I see two principal functions that need to be

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Oct 2008, at 16:34, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: What I wish for is that Content bundles were not second-class citizens. The entire Home View is devoted to presenting Activities for launching (or deletion). But Collections currently are presented only within the left-hand panel in Browse.

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if Activity and Content bundles were one and the same. You could have bundles that just hold an Activity to install, or just have Content for the library, or more interestingly have it hold both an Activity and

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Activities are verbs. Collections are nouns. Sugar should make the getting_to/using of nouns as easy as that of verbs. Activities are really nouns too, a lot of them are just named with verbs that describe what they

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 12 Oct 2008, at 01:48, Wade Brainerd wrote: On the bad side, you can't run two Wikipedias because they will try to bind webservers to the same port. Also, if the user removes Browse, Wikipedia will no longer run. These issues could best be solved by a sugar-webcontent-activity

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Oct 2008, at 01:48, Wade Brainerd wrote: On the bad side, you can't run two Wikipedias because they will try to bind webservers to the same port. Also, if the user removes Browse, Wikipedia will no longer run.

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-10 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Oct 2008, at 14:26, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Oct 2008, at 14:26, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Stone
Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a user interface designed for engaging children in the world of learning: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Sugar_2 ===

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Brian Jordan
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a user interface designed for engaging children in the world of learning:

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Brian Jordan wrote: My favorite part was the end: bemasc making content bundles work better sounds very valuable. We certainly don't provide nice content creation tools. I heartily agree that this is an area in which improvements are worth pursuing. Quite some

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
I posted a comment on Bryan's call for textbook/narrative creation. http://www.olpcnews.com/content/education/scaling_constructionism_with_dynabooks.html Let's do this, Bryan. Where should we set up the workshop? What tools do we need? Wiki, mailing lists, forums, repository...? I and others

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-08 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wholly captured my attention tonight when he said (in summary): Sugar offers an excellent mode for discovery but no excellent way to manipulate narratives. Both discovery and narrative are essential for