Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-18 Thread Joel Rees
Very typical modus operandi for leviathan -- Convenient errors in the news. Convenient to leviathan, at any rate, not to the poor mucks whose work they intend to capitalize. Is someone who can claim more authority and give better information than I going to notify the NYTimes of the error?

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at the deal. Dual-boot costs $7 extra. Governments will not pay

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seth Woodworth writes: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would have been a lot simpler to have left OFW as it was, unable to support a Windows boot. But the point is now moot. No, actually that would have forced the Windows scenario to require a BIOS to be flashed in place

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Nicholas Negroponte
At 07:27 PM 5/15/2008, Asheesh Laroia wrote: My copy of this mail does not have the attachment of the mission statement. Mission statement.doc Description: MS-Word document ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Jim Gettys
We could still boot Linux on a conventional BIOS, like on every other machine in the world. But then we give up fast suspend/resume, and distribution channel security. It seems to me that having Linux able to work better than Windows in fundamental ways is wise ;-). - Jim On

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Sameer Verma
Morgan Collett wrote: 2008/5/16 Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (word document attached) For those who can't or won't open the word document, it contains simply this: Mission statement of OLPC To eliminate poverty and create world peace by providing education to the poorest and most

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morgan Collett wrote: 2008/5/16 Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (word document attached) For those who can't or won't open the word document, it contains simply this: Mission statement of OLPC To eliminate

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at the deal. Dual-boot costs $7 extra. Governments will not pay the extra $7 to allow dual-boot. No, Windows costs about $7 extra for

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread dthornburg
, indeed. David Thornburg -Original Message- From: Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 6:27 pm Subject: Re: [sugar] Microsoft On Thu, 15 May 2008, Nicholas

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN and Microsoft. What does this agreement equate to? And what are the alternatives to Microsoft? If the XO was running a completely closed source stack with no documentation on hardware, how would the Linux community feel?

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Seth Woodworth writes: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been preventative. Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat,

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat, otherwise known as fair-is-fair. It's perfectly ethical to defend oneself against an adversary who has no qualms about anything. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. - Ghandi ___ Sugar mailing list