[sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hey all, while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the anything and anytime filter functions: anything: Apart from offering activities and file-types as filter-options I'm thinking that it might make sense to also offer an option for different subjects that kids will

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Fox
i wrote: where is the interface between activities and the journal documented? i'm not coming up with anything concrete when i search the wiki. (or alternatively, i'm coming up with too much to wade through.) two people have suggested (offlist, presumably to save me embarrassment ;-)

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote: where is the interface between activities and the journal documented? i'm not coming up with anything concrete when i search the wiki. (or alternatively, i'm coming up with too much to wade through.)

Re: [sugar] problem in sugar_jhbuild

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Dan Krejsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks for fixing it so quickly! One question, where did the activity launching icons go that used to be visible in the bottom tray in the home view? The home view and the frame are being reorganized as

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Feb 28, 2008, at 15:10 , Paul Fox wrote: i wrote: where is the interface between activities and the journal documented? i'm not coming up with anything concrete when i search the wiki. (or alternatively, i'm coming up with too much to wade through.) two people have suggested (offlist,

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Fox
bert wrote: On Feb 28, 2008, at 15:10 , Paul Fox wrote: i do feel like that there could be more of a broad-brush overview, something like a Lifetime of an Activity section, that would describe the interactions of an activity with the various other sugar services, from start to

Re: [sugar] problem in sugar_jhbuild

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Dan Krejsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, The new design certainly looks cool! The 'alternate' home view in which the ring takes on the colors of the most recent instance of an activity (and I presume would start the most recent instance if simply

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Fox
tomeu wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah -- okay -- the Datastore section says my app must store its complete state in the datastore, to let it show up in the journal. but i'm not sure what complete state means All the data that your

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Feb 28, 2008, at 17:17 , Paul Fox wrote: i forgot to mention -- i'm also a non-Dbus guy. :-) Well, it was new to me too when I started with Sugar ;) There's some info at http://dbus.freedesktop.org/ how do activate/passivate (nice word :-), screenshots, invitations, fit into the

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tomeu wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah -- okay -- the Datastore section says my app must store its complete state in the datastore, to let it show up in the journal.

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Fox
tomeu wrote: Yeah, it's a very important concept and perhaps it's not clearly stated in the wiki documentation. Do you have any idea about how to improve this? Perhaps the HIG should make this clearer? it may be there already. i need to spend some more quality time with the HIG

Re: [sugar] problem in sugar_jhbuild

2008-02-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 17:20 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Right, I think there's some discussion going on about which view should be the default. As changing that will be rather trivial code-wise, I guess we can defer that decision. I have a proposal that might be relevant, based on a

Re: [sugar] how does an activity connect to the journal?

2008-02-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tomeu wrote: Yeah, it's a very important concept and perhaps it's not clearly stated in the wiki documentation. Do you have any idea about how to improve this? Perhaps the HIG should make this clearer? it may be

[sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Tom Hoffman
I think what I need to actually get rolling with Sugar development is a Hello World for the journal. I'd like to see a tutorial (or just code even) with a Sugar activity that just takes an entry into a plain text box. And puts that text into the journal. When I click on the journal entry I see

[sugar] fake hibernate (was problem in sugar_jhbuild)

2008-02-28 Thread Morgan Collett
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I have a proposal that might be relevant, based on a discussion with Chris Ball about hibernation (i.e. suspend-to-disk). Hibernation essentially saves all of userspace RAM into a file on disk, along with the list of active processes, then shuts down. On the next

[sugar] wpa2 personal

2008-02-28 Thread Erik Blankinship
How do I find and connect to wpa2-personal access points? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Morgan Collett
Tom Hoffman wrote: I think what I need to actually get rolling with Sugar development is a Hello World for the journal. I'd like to see a tutorial (or just code even) with a Sugar activity that just takes an entry into a plain text box. And puts that text into the journal. When I click on

Re: [sugar] wpa2 personal

2008-02-28 Thread Erik Blankinship
Update.1 691 Q2D13 On 2/28/08, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find and connect to wpa2-personal access points? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] sugar.graphics.menutoolbutton?

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was sugar.graphics.menutoolbutton deprecated? It is no longer in jhbuild. What should be used instead? A ToolButton with a palette is the preferred way. See for example the clipboard palette:

[sugar] sugar shell refactoring

2008-02-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, for the last months we have received valuable feedback about the Sugar user interface. After some discussion, some changes have been proposed. Eben explains them in the following links: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs We won't be able to implement all this for Update.2, but will try

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Eben Eliason
while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the anything and anytime filter functions: Both interesting ideas... anything: Apart from offering activities and file-types as filter-options I'm thinking that it might make sense to also offer an option for different

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the anything and anytime filter functions: Both interesting ideas... anything: Apart from offering activities and file-types as filter-options I'm

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the anything and anytime filter functions: Both interesting ideas...

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, When I run the above I get the following: [..] /usr/bin/git-clone: 310: curl: not found This is a local problem; you need to install curl. (Marco, you should put GIT repositories into your public_git/ dir instead of public_rpms/, so that the GIT server and gitweb serve them

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Kent Loobey
On Thursday 28 February 2008 14:30:44 Chris Ball wrote: Hi, When I run the above I get the following: [..] /usr/bin/git-clone: 310: curl: not found This is a local problem; you need to install curl. After installing curl I get: /silo/olpc/doc/examples$ git-clone

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Cannot get remote repository information. Perhaps git-update-server-info needs to be run there? Using http:// instead of https:// will get past that. - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Using http:// instead of https:// will get past that. Still no joy. It looks like Marco has now moved it over from public_html/ to public_git/, but without telling us. So, now you can do: git-clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/marco/edit-activity And you can also see the

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Kent Loobey
On Thursday 28 February 2008 17:24:22 Chris Ball wrote: Hi, Using http:// instead of https:// will get past that. Still no joy. It looks like Marco has now moved it over from public_html/ to public_git/, but without telling us. So, now you can do: git-clone

Re: [sugar] Hello Journal World!

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Whoever tries to give us the solution next, please run it yourself and give us the output. Don't say to yourself, Of course it will work this time. I did, and it worked; it fails for you because the repository was moved inbetween me sending those instructions and you trying them.