Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sep 5, 2007, at 1:57 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Even just making a character/console based plotter would give kids a lot to learn, at the same time. There are some folks in the Python scientific computing community working on this. I'm pretty excited about it. -- Ivan Krstić [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Ivan, Even just making a character/console based plotter would give kids a lot to learn, at the same time. There are some folks in the Python scientific computing community working on this. I'm pretty excited about it. Cool. If you are excited about it, it means a lot. If it

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Walter Bender
While in the abstract, Yoshiki has a great idea, I see three problems: (1) Especially for young children who are just beginning to read and write, imposing Python and its syntax on them is to high of a hurdle for accessing a calculator; (2) While I love Pippy, it has a long ways to go towards

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Reinier, Firstly, I apologize if my first email sounded too harsh to you. (It definitely didn't mean to be personal.) Being the main Calculate developer, I don't agree on your opinion about Calculate. I think it deserves to be a separate activity. It's true that it was a little

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread linaccess
hi, On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:00:50 +0200 Reinier Heeres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I just think the two activities are suited for different things. ... yes, I agree. A calculator is not to learn python. Some time ago the calculator activity looks like real pocket calculator and I think

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Yoshiki, (I'm the Pippy author.) Imagine if Pippy has a button called Print!, which would be located right next to the Run! button. And, if Print! prints out the results of running the program into the bottom pane, that is pretty much all we need. (For the record, the

Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Hi, Chris, (I'm the Pippy author.) (We didn't have much time to discuss with you while I was in Cambridge two weeks ago...) Imagine if Pippy has a button called Print!, which would be located right next to the Run! button. And, if Print! prints out the results of running