Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Mar 17, 2008, at 21:01 , Eben Eliason wrote: - adds stroke_opacity and fill_opacity entities, for potential future use in sugar I'd prefer to not introduce these entities before they are needed. They only complicate matters for icon authors. Besides, I am pretty sure these will not

[sugar] Sugar mtg reminder, 18th March 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
#olpc-meeting 17.00 (UTC) We do have the ongoing work of the frame redesign and the control panel in progress. Update on everybody's work * Redesign Frame (tomeu) * Control Panel (erikos) * ... Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2008, at 21:01 , Eben Eliason wrote: - adds stroke_opacity and fill_opacity entities, for potential future use in sugar I'd prefer to not introduce these entities before they are needed. They only

[sugar] new wm based on mb2

2008-03-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Simon, this patch adds to mb2 a custom window manager for sugar, based on the existing maemo one. Applies to: svn co http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk/matchbox-window-manager-2 Regards, Tomeu Index: configure.ac ===

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Fox
eben wrote: Do you think that making sugar-iconify a standard (and strongly recommended) step in creating proper sugar icons is a bad idea? What are your experiences actually using it so far? i think such a script is an excellent addition. as the OP of this thread, it would have helped me

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 18, 2008, at 14:51 , Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, I am pretty sure these will not have the effect you envision. If

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
- as cluttery as it feels, i think the script should create a backup (icon.svg~) of the original, by default, if it's going to overwrite the original. there could be an option to suppress this. Interesting point, and not a bad idea. Perhaps instead I

[sugar] webkit using libsoup as http stack

2008-03-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2008/03/16/advancements-in-gtk-flavored-web-engines/ This would mean that downloads can be initiated in Browse but managed by the journal, as the user design calls for. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Fox
eben wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - as cluttery as it feels, i think the script should create a backup (icon.svg~) of the original, by default, if it's going to overwrite the original. there could be an option

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
oh yeah -- i forgot to mention the defaults. i don't think they're all that useful (hence my notion of guessing them), because there there are a lot of competing suggested values, none of which include #66, that i can find :-). This is quite true. On the other hand, these are the

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Mar 18, 2008, at 15:59 , Eben Eliason wrote: I'm honestly not too worried about corruption of files, since the resulting SVG should remain fully editable after conversion, and running the script multiple times shouldn't be a problem either. That's too many shoulds ;) But seriously, it's a

[sugar] Sugar emulation on Ubuntu!

2008-03-18 Thread Kent Loobey
Jani Monoses is THE MAN!!! His Ubuntu package for the Sugar emulator is fantastic! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_on_Ubuntu_Linux#Option_3_-_Deb_Packages_for_Gutsy Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Mar 2008, at 14:40, Eben Eliason wrote: Perhaps we could even remove strokes in the fill color from the ruleset, as I don't believe I myself nor anyone else thus far has used them. If I understand your description here, I'm pretty sure I'm using them to get crisp icon detail within

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Mar 2008, at 14:40, Eben Eliason wrote: Perhaps we could even remove strokes in the fill color from the ruleset, as I don't believe I myself nor anyone else thus far has used them. If I understand your

[sugar] Sugar mtg minutes, March 18 2008

2008-03-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, follow the last meeting minutes: * Redesign Home view (tomeu) o Eben has been contributing code to match the UI design. o Working now on visual notification for activity launch. o Anybody interested can build and run inside jhbuild the following modules: +

[sugar] next sugar meeting: text-to-speech

2008-03-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, in today meeting we have agreed on the convenience of having a meeting mainly focused on the use of text-to-speech systems in Sugar. If everybody agree, will take place Tuesday March 25 at 15.00 UTC. I'm sending this to the Accessibility list in the hope that someone will be interested

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Mar 18, 2008, at 19:20 , Eben Eliason wrote: Again, this is usually the fault of the stroke translucency, since the stroke overlaps the fill by half its width, causing a layered effect. Our only potential uses for this are (opaque stroke, translucent fill) and (translucent stroke,

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 18, 2008, at 19:20 , Eben Eliason wrote: Again, this is usually the fault of the stroke translucency, since the stroke overlaps the fill by half its width, causing a layered effect. Our only potential

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
I removed the stroke_opacity entity completely. Bert also pointed out that I was accidentally setting stroke_opacity on stroke elements that had the fill color. This fixes that glitch as well. Of course, that fixed, I do recognize that in the cases where a stroke is rendered in fill color,

[sugar] Image Recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Chris Hager
Hey all, The webcam on the XO sure has a lot of potential for cool killer apps. For example things with - Motion Tracking - Gesture Recognition - Face Recognition - Object Identification - ... Recently I came in touch with OpenCV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opencv) -- it's a open source

Re: [sugar] Image Recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Kevin Cole
Hi, I'm new to this list, but Ivan Krstic suggested this was the group I'd want. I'm at Gallaudet University, which some of you may not know is the only accredited liberal arts university for deaf students in the world. We're 70% federally funded and in return for that funding, are supposed to

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Mar 2008, at 20:13, Eben Eliason wrote: I can remove the stroke-opacity altogether. As mentioned before, I don't have any particular goal in mind with respect to that property...I just implemented it at the same time as fill-opacity because it was easy to add. I do want to keep the

Re: [sugar] Image Recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | A low-cost, low-power laptop with a built-in webcam and a somewhat | iconic interface offers some interesting possibilities for folks whose | primary means of communication is via sign language. | | I'm beginning to generate some interest on campus

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Mar 2008, at 20:13, Eben Eliason wrote: I can remove the stroke-opacity altogether. As mentioned before, I don't have any particular goal in mind with respect to that property...I just implemented it at the

Re: [sugar] icon assistance/validation

2008-03-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Mar 2008, at 18:20, Eben Eliason wrote: ** Much as I like a SMOOTH strobe effect, the XO as I understand it is really poor at transparency processing (HW can support it, but like so many things, the SW support isn't there yet). So it's slow to the point that the strobe effect had