Re: [sugar] Human Interface Guidelines (update and hosting)

2008-12-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone - The Human Interface Guidelines [1] have been stagnant for some time, and I'm starting an initiative to remedy the situation. This effort, as I see it, has two components: 1) update the contents of

Re: [sugar] Sugar Design Meeting REMINDER (Now)

2008-12-04 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the details: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DesignTeam/Meetings#Thursday_December_4.2C_2008_-_15.00_.28UTC.29 Apologies for the late reminder. In the back of my head I thought that was automated now, but either I'm

Re: [sugar] Sugar Labs introduction

2008-12-02 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I realize I should have jumped into this discussion earlier. Please excuse me, I've just put myself thru an intense matrixesque self-learning weeks around learning communities, communities of practice, community

Re: [sugar] Fwd: Roadmap update

2008-11-26 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Riccardo Lucchese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is `zero olpc contractors working full time on Sugar' ? Sorry about the lack of clarity, I somehow assumed everyone knew about this

Re: [sugar] Fwd: Roadmap update

2008-11-26 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Riccardo Lucchese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is `zero olpc contractors working full time on Sugar' ? Sorry about the lack of clarity, I somehow assumed everyone knew about this

Re: [sugar] Installing sugar on Debian lenny

2008-11-25 Thread David Farning
I am adding debian-olpc-devel to this thread. They will most likely have the most experience with debian specific issues. david On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Sascha Silbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Not

[sugar] Sugar Camp - Hard Problems

2008-11-23 Thread David Farning
I would like to thank everyone who contributed to make SugarCamp II a success. From an organizational and personal perspective I was hard on a lot of people. Hard, but I hope equally hard on everyone. OLPC and SL are working on hard problems. Many of the problems we are struggling with are

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-23 Thread David Farning
forward. How does that sound? olpc-dev list emails are kind of over my head Yeah, we should understand better this issue. Is a coder-newbies mailing list a valid suggestion? where are things? (on wiki, etc) David Farning is working on this, following a never ending list of complaints

[sugar] Sugar Camp - Friday Nov 21

2008-11-20 Thread David Farning
As you can see, the schedule for sugarcamp has been updated. The primary emotion that I felt when waking this morning was disappointment. It seems unfortunate SL and OLPC were able to assemble such a collection of smart, passionate, and committed individuals who were unable to accomplish

[sugar] Looking for a room. Was Re: [OLPC library] revision to the Manual

2008-11-18 Thread David Farning
Does anyone have room for Adam for the weekend. david On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Adam Floss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a spare couch? Adam This is probably sent while in transit On Nov 18, 2008, at 9:45, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like Adam Hyde

[sugar] sugar-devel mailing list

2008-11-17 Thread David Farning
The Sugar developers have started a upstream list for sugar development issues that are not OLPC specific. If you are interested, please feel free to join. thanks david ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] sugar-devel mailing list

2008-11-17 Thread David Farning
Thanks Ivan david On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:59 PM, David Farning wrote: The Sugar developers have started a upstream list for sugar development issues that are not OLPC specific. If you are interested, please feel free

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris

2008-11-15 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Great! I can handle the translation between the spanish teachers and the french developers if the need arises. Podré apoyar las comunicaciones entre los profesores de Uruguay, Panama y Peru por una parte, y los

[sugar] Sugar on Gnome mobile

2008-11-15 Thread David Farning
Has anyone gotten a chance to look at Gnome Mobile and how it might serve as a platform for Sugar. The development rate is starting to pickup. I am curious if the services and APIs provided by Gnome Mobile will meet Sugar's needs. The stated goal is being a subset of gnome while being small

Re: [sugar] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet somewhere in Cambridge for dinner. So, what about meeting for having some

Re: [sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread David Farning
to fund its own operations (Walter Bender) - How SugarLabs is going to govern itself (Walter Bender, David Farning?) - How SugarLabs is partnering with other organizations (David Farning) - etc, you get the idea. I think most of those talks could give material for discussion for at least half

Re: [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:11 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-11 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Brendan R. Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a good idea and would like to hear more about how we could open Sugar up to higher levels of interoperability. I'm also quite curious about how Sugar runs in a

Re: [sugar] Sugarcamp hackathon (Was: Re: November conference (meeting notes))

2008-11-11 Thread David Farning
Hey Mel, Sounds like a great event. I will be in Boston the weekend before and the weekend after the meeting, so I can help out where ever you need. Thanks david Also, a public thanks to Mel for providing me a place to stay during the event! On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Mel Chua [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread David Farning
Yoshiki. I'll forward this information to the Ubuntu Squeak maintainer. Do you know who I should talk to about requesting that http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ be update to reflect this information? thanks david On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Farning
Edubuntu held a IRC planning meeting that was well attended by Sugar. As David VA pointed out in an earlier thread, Edubuntu has had a complicated history. (who hasn't) Hopefully, we can use some Sugar/Ubuntu SugarTeam/LTSP/Edubuntu synergy to help reignite interest in Edubuntu. Much of the

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Farning
it to an mit license? 1. http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ 2. http://netjam.org/squeak/contributors/missingSignatories david On 11/6/08, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Farning
Thanks Edward, I see that you have cced Yoshiki and Robin. If they don't catch this thread, I follow up with them. thanks david On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-04 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, we met to discuss schedule and scope of the meeting today. Tomeu, Marco, Scott, Mel, Michael, Samuel was present. == Schedule == We came up with two possible schedules, we haven't made a call about which

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] membership guidelines again

2008-11-04 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: David, Thanks for writing this up. Comments/questions in line. ---Membership Guidelines--- Any contributor who is active in helping Sugar Labs accomplish its mission is eligible for membership. It would be

[sugar] November meeting

2008-11-03 Thread David Farning
In light of the cancellation of the formal XO meeting that was tentatively scheduled for November. It make sense to have an informal community meeting instead. Micheal Stone and C. Scott have taken the initiative to start arranging a community SugarCamp. I would like to leverage on their work

Re: [sugar] Schools.Sugarlabs.org

2008-11-01 Thread David Farning
to set up a course please let me or David Farning know.nbsp; So far our plans are to use it support collaboration by nontechnical groups that maybe more used to a web based forum then a mailing list.nbsp; However, its available for repositories and other uses as well.nbsp; It is being hosted

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-10-31 Thread David Farning
. thanks david On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:19 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a Subuntu live usb. Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-10-31 Thread David Farning
for those interested in hearing the future of edubuntu and ubuntu in education, as well as how sugar can play a role there. I believe Morgan Collet will be presenting Sugar there. Kind Regards, David Van Assche On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
nbsp;FWIW.nbsp; I have had a number of high school teacher and university instructors ask about using the xo as a language learning appliance.nbsp; The two reoccurring themes have been:XO as a portable language lab.Ability to develop a language learning activity which could tailor itself to the

[sugar] Benefits of creating activities

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
Walter posed a question on how to communicate the benefits of developing activities for Sugar in his last Sugar digest. One approach is to look at the philanthropic aspects of OLPC and SL for potential developers. The primary goal of any non-profit is to accomplish the organization's mission as

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I have stopped work on the DS and Journal because OLPC is apparently

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
*Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene there so they decided to add a donated computer to their waiting room just for kids to use Sugar. This computer still has its hard-drive, but its

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
: What is the current recommendation for a LiveUSB image? -walter On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clinic next door to a School - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Caroline Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Clinic next door to a School* - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students

[sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-10-30 Thread David Farning
It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a Subuntu live usb. Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information on downloading and building the usb at http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/ Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to

Re: [sugar] Greetings from New Hampsire

2008-10-24 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Brendan R. Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Greetings, Hey Brendan, Welcome to the list! Our company and developers are interested in getting involved with the development community for Sugar. We deploy Linux desktop solutions in schools in the United States

Re: [sugar] [K12OSN] Sugar, collaboration and LTSP on Ubuntu

2008-10-17 Thread David Farning
Great Work David! How long do you think it will take to push modified ejabber .debs through the Ubuntu packaging process? thanks David On 10/17/2008, 11:10, David Van Assche ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:Hi there, with the generous help from #sugar devs I managed to get ltsp, sugar and

Re: [sugar] code contributions to Sugar (was Re: Sugar Clock)

2008-10-15 Thread David Farning
A good first towards solving this challenge is developing a project level self awareness of the different types of decisions we make. 1. Pedagogical 2. Technical 3. Political As a general rule we should strive to make decisions base on their pedagogical soundness, technical merit, and

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread David Farning
This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for their own unique classrooms and situations. thanks david On Wed, Oct

[sugar] Sugar on Mandriva

2008-09-29 Thread David Farning
Does anyone on the list have contacts at Mandriva. I'll start the process of pushing Sugar through Mandriva. I have very little experience with the Mandriva community. thanks david ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

[sugar] pydocweb regression fixed

2008-09-25 Thread David Farning
The regression in pydocweb is fixed. I will go through the list of docstrings requiring review. Morgs, thanks for all the work on the network strings! thanks david ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Now YOU can write API documentation

2008-09-24 Thread David Farning
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 13:55 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: thanks david I've started on sugar.network as I went through that code recently. Here's an issue with pydocweb: http://sugarlabs1.xen.prgmr.com/pydocweb/doc/sugar.network.GlibTCPServer/ doesn't show the name of a method starting

Re: [sugar] apis at 4%

2008-09-22 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:15 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Yes, pydocweb uses merge from GNUs RCS to handle changes between the docstrings in the pydocweb database and the source code. Whatever merge can not figure out, is flagged for editor attention. I will commit it, let me know

Re: [sugar] apis at 4%

2008-09-22 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:17 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Another thing... Is it possible to setup things so that one of the core developers has a quick look to the docs before they go in? (So that we have a chance to detect mistakes or to just improvements). I think it would be important

Re: [sugar] apis at 4%

2008-09-22 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 17:11 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:42 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you suggest? If I understand your explanations correctly, the system already support some kind of review workflow... could devs just get involved

[sugar] how scipy uses pydocweb

2008-09-22 Thread David Farning
I just recieved some link about how pydocweb is being used in documenting scipy. Joe Harrington's Project Overview: http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/SciPy2008/paper_7/ Stefan Van der Walt's Technical Overview: http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/SciPy2008/paper_5/ You might also be

[sugar] apis at 4%

2008-09-21 Thread David Farning
Looking for a few people to help us hit the 5% mark for API being written. I hit the 4%[1] this morning:) I am mostly stubbing out sugar.graphics with parameter lists for function call. It seems much easier to start from sometime rather a blank page. The patches are flowing into the git tree

Re: [sugar] apis at 4%

2008-09-21 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 23:35 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patches are flowing into the git tree correctly. If you find bugs or anything that looks kludge in the system, please let us know. This is the first

Re: [sugar] Sugar API documentation

2008-09-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 16:24 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We certainly could do something equivalent to the Austin sprint. All being in the room together made a big difference for that initial push. Yes, I'm not sure

[sugar] [Fwd: Debian-Edu Skolelinux Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway, October 10.-12.]

2008-09-05 Thread David Farning
An interesting event for any of our Europe based friends. SkoleLinux is(can be) a valuable partner to Sugar Labs! Forwarded Message From: Lars Risan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian-Edu Skolelinux Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway, October 10.-12.

[sugar] Fragmenting or providing a foothold?

2008-09-04 Thread David Farning
It appears that the consensus is to keep activity developers and sugar developers united on the same ML. Instead of talking specifically about the activities list, I would like to talk more generally about community growth. This discussion is premised on the belief that the future of the Sugar

Re: [sugar] Sugar on the BeagleBoard using the OpenEmbedded toolkit.

2008-09-04 Thread David Farning
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:14 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op 22 aug 2008, om 02:29 heeft David Farning het volgende geschreven: Welcome to the Sugar on the BeagleBoard project. It seems that we have all of the pieces

Re: [sugar] finding sugarlabs.org resources

2008-09-04 Thread David Farning
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 11:15 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Mikus, when the appropriate lists are decided on and created, you will find them at http://lists.sugarlabs.org/ I could find lists.sugarlabs.org now that I knew what I was looking for (and did not use the sugarlabs.org search

Re: [sugar] Developing activities.

2008-09-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 13:25 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: 1. Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. We have discussed this a few time over the last few months. Now that we are getting distro (other the OLPC) related comments the time seems right 2. Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

Re: [sugar] OT: Anybody worked with robot and OLPC

2008-09-02 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 19:01 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Hi maybe this can be of interest, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots this is planned with open hardware. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware. On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carlos mauro

[sugar] Developing activities.

2008-09-02 Thread David Farning
For those who have not yet gotten a chance to look at the results of Morgs activity developers survey. It is available at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Morgs/Activities_survey/Recommendations . There is a lot of good stuff in there;) Steps Sugar Labs Should take to improve the situation: Now

[sugar] Sugar API documentation

2008-09-02 Thread David Farning
After some discussions with Janet Swisher last week I thought it was time to take another stab at API documentation for sugar. Background: Several months ago I started experimenting with several tools to generate API documentation from the source code. After several misguided efforts, I settled

Re: [sugar] Reference Platform for Sugar ?

2008-09-01 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 19:41 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Sugar releases being separate from OLPC releases, is there an 'Official Platform' on which to validate that everything works? I'm not sure to fully

Re: [sugar] LiveCD LiveUSB

2008-09-01 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 13:21 -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Jani Monoses wrote: I do not know where ISOs could be hosted though. SugarLabs can host them. I am a bit reluctant to host them at Sugar Labs. We are pushing to brand Sugar as distribution agnostic. So,

Re: [sugar] LiveCD LiveUSB

2008-09-01 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 17:28 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Sep 1, 2008, at 5:23 PM, David Farning wrote: I am a bit reluctant to host them at Sugar Labs. We are pushing to brand Sugar as distribution agnostic. So, distributing a Ubuntu based

Re: [sugar] Release Cycle - Responsibilities

2008-09-01 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 01:46 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:47 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. Separate OLPC deployment support developers from the Sugar Labs development develops. In the last cycle it appeared that developers and managers split

[sugar] LiveCD LiveUSB

2008-08-29 Thread David Farning
Thanks for your support on the LiveCD and LiveUSB. We now have a script that builds liveCDs and LiveUSBs. The script pulls the latest packages from the SugarTeam PPA and addeds it to the 8.4 liveCD. Where do you think we should host the build scripts and the isos? thanks dfarning

Re: [sugar] Sugar people traveling to FUDCon Brno

2008-08-28 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, some of the Sugar developers will come out from their honeycombs and fly to Brno, Czech Republic to meet at the FUDCon Brno 2008 the September 5 - 7, 2008. The plan is to explain to whoever listens to us in which

[sugar] Sugar on the BeagleBoard using the OpenEmbedded toolkit.

2008-08-21 Thread David Farning
Welcome to the Sugar on the BeagleBoard project. It seems that we have all of the pieces in place to do a port. First, some background. The initial port will be getting Sugar[1] to run on the Beagleboard[2] using the Open Embedded[3] toolkit. For a collaboration point, Jason has set up the

Re: [sugar] [beagleboard] Why Embedded Sugar?

2008-08-20 Thread David Farning
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 21:29 -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote: David Farning wrote: It has been a bit of a plug but it looks like we have reach critical mass for a self sustaining embedded Sugar community. I love the idea of getting a critical mass around something, but I don't yet get

[sugar] Embedded Sugar

2008-08-19 Thread David Farning
It has been a bit of a plug but it looks like we have reach critical mass for a self sustaining embedded Sugar community. The first board will be the beagleboard[1]. We have assembled a core group of developers who are in doing the port. We will be using the Open Embedded[2] toolkit. OE is an

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Beagle Board training at ESC Boston

2008-08-18 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:00 -0500, Jason Kridner wrote: Call for presentation from Sugar developers, I think it would be great if the Sugar community would put forth a training at the Embedded Systems Conference in Boston in October[1]. What sort of class do you have in mind? I will see

[sugar] Release cycle - Goals

2008-08-18 Thread David Farning
Over the last weeks I have been looking at how we can improve our release cycle. Today will be about defining and implementing goals. Setting goals for any software project is hard, much less an open source project. Marco started the discussion last week at

Re: [sugar] 0.84 goals

2008-08-15 Thread David Farning
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:08 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, I started working on the goals for 0.84 in the wiki: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals Here is what I have so far. * Next generation journal * File sharing * Collaboration scalability *

[sugar] Release Cycle - Responsibilities

2008-08-15 Thread David Farning
The third step in establishing a release cycle will be determining responsibilities. This will be the biggest challenge. Assessment of areas to improve. This is not meant as a slight on the hard work any individuals at OLPC have done on Sugar. I am amazed at the overall progress you have made

[sugar] Release Cycle

2008-08-14 Thread David Farning
Now that Sugar Labs has released .8.2 to OLPC it is time to revisit the release cycle issue. I have the feeling that most of us agree _in_principle_ to the idea that an established release cycle is important. As part of his Ph.D. Martin Michlmayr has done some interesting research on the topic.

[sugar] Release Cycle - Period

2008-08-14 Thread David Farning
The first step in establishing a release cycle will be setting the period. Here again, I think that we all agree in principle on a sixth month cycle. From Sugar Labs perspective the actual time period is quite arbitrary. The lower bound is how quickly we can effectively iterate through the

Re: [sugar] Design Question

2008-07-18 Thread David Farning
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 16:53 -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to pick one to default on first upgrade or install. Choices are:

Re: [sugar] proposed addition to the Activities page templete

2008-07-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 03:17 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: We'd need to do some serious QA to figure this out, but I think it would go a long ways towards giving people a sense of what they can expect in terms of a robust use of Sugar. -walter As a related update on

[sugar] [Fwd: Re: Sugar on Debian]

2008-07-16 Thread David Farning
I am forwarding this question from Jonas Smedgaard the Debian package maintainer to the developer list. dfarning Forwarded Message From: Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sugar on Debian Date

Re: [sugar] Sugar and OLPC release processes

2008-07-14 Thread David Farning
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 02:03 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, I discussed a bit with Michael how to integrate Sugar and OLPC release processes. I'm going to summarize the outcoming here. * SugarLabs should try to schedule his release a few months before the OLPC release target

Re: [sugar] Localization team

2008-07-13 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 12:18 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Any reason we don't have a localization team in the wiki? Any volunteer to set it up? Translations should really be handled upstream, so it's an area where SugarLabs have to be very active. Currently, Sayamindu Dasgupta is

Re: [sugar] SugarLabs and OLPC

2008-07-13 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 12:15 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, there has been a bit of confusion on how the OLPC and SugarLabs schedules relates, in particular regarding translation and string freeze. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/localization/2008-July/001139.html I'm

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Localization team

2008-07-13 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 20:59 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Chris Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say that Sayamindu is already doing exactly that sort of working with upstream in the form of trying to coordinate translation efforts into release

Re: [sugar] Relationships w/ upstream.

2008-07-07 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:37 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Since a conversation on IRC got unexpectedly heated, let me restate my personal philosophy for OLPC's relationships with upstream: (a) I believe that we should put OLPC's goals *first*, and endeavor to ensure that we are always

[sugar] Who Wrote Sugar?

2008-06-27 Thread David Farning
I am adapting Jonathan Corbet's 'who wrote the kernel' to work with sugar. Below are the a raw results for Glucose and Sucrose. If you are on the commiters list, please send me who you would like to get credit as your employer. If you are missing from the list, let me know so I can clean up

[sugar] Wondering Who Wrote Sugar?

2008-06-24 Thread David Farning
As an exercise for coordinating the look and feel of the sugarlabs.org family of sites, I took a pass at a git Stats page. It is at http://api.sugarlabs.org/s.s.o/ . Some of the links in the navigation menu are broken because it doesn't handle the s.s.o subdirectory correctly. When

Re: [sugar] [Techteam] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-23 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 10:36 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:29 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two releases per year make sense. Particularly when add in the fact that we have two hemispheres with opposing springs and falls. Only if you assume we can

Re: [sugar] Making updating easier and Planning for Support

2008-06-22 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 15:02 -0400, Kim Quirk wrote: Deepak (and others interested in support), This is a good question and we've talked about it from time to time. The OLPC Support planning is really just now underway. We've made some good progress on the Hardware side of support (spare

Re: [sugar] Triaging Glucose laptop

2008-06-22 Thread David Farning
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 04:16 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, as you probably noticed trac is a mess, no one payed attention to it for too long. We have 503 bugs open for Glucose, most of them assigned to me and Tomeu.

[sugar] api.sugarlabs.org .04 is up

2008-06-14 Thread David Farning
I have spent the week cleaning up and moving a.s.o from my sandbox to api.sugarlabs.org. It is mostly working, with the exception of the favicon. Code for the site is at https://www.develer.com/gitweb/pub?p=users/dfarning/api.git;a=summary . There is a very rough draft of the API documentation

Re: [sugar] Proposed Governance - was: (Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-06-09)

2008-06-09 Thread David Farning
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:07 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: In general, I like what I see. I think somewhat more (and somewhat less) specific governance needs to be specified from what I see so far. Not all of these need to be addressed in a temporary working governance document, but do need to

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Fwd: Autonomous system for Sugar development....

2008-06-06 Thread David Farning
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 21:16 +0200, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Jun 6, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Jim Gettys wrote: The community itself needs to decide on a set of people who are the group of sysadmin people for Sugar's possible move to be something all are comfortable about. Please don't top post, and

Re: [sugar] documentation effort for sugar api

2008-06-06 Thread David Farning
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 16:01 -0400, Faisal Anwar wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks for your email and willingness to help. I'm prioritizing getting something similar to the java almanac up and running, but if I can get a substantial body of how to's completed in the next couple of weeks, then I will