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Yeah. I am not sure why rendering and caching SVG is so slow. Anyone
out there have any tips on how to speed it up?
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I did update the link in w.l.o/go/Activities/All
)... and I'll even test the change
correctly auto installs on XOs running 767-8.2 (but I can't do joyride
only stuff, having no access to jhbuilds).
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Announcing TurtleArt 18:
.XO:
http://sugarlabs.org/wiki/images/1/1c/TurtleArt-18.xo
SOURCE:
http
this purpose. Of course, direct
l10n of the SVG is reasonably easy, so maybe this would be gilding the lily.
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msgid
msgstr
Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n
Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n
POT-Creation-Date: 2008-11-17 10:53-0500\n
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include Finnish language support and improved support for varying
screen sizes.
Localization teams: please review the translations and report any
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enough space. Anyone have any experience getting
this to work? Also, creating the USB image was **very** slow.
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conference. (Scott)
* Coordinate Walter to figure out which rooms we are using for the
talks. (Samuel)
* Contact people that offered housing to see if the offer is valid for
the Sugar conference. (Marco)
Please keep everyone informed on your progress.
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Subject: Re: Tagged Journal Proposal
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Haven't had a chance to review the talk note yet, but one observation
based on Paul's comment
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on the web.
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Status of internationalization.
* es and fr
Code repository.
* http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity
Bug tracking system.
* https://dev.laptop.org/query
Much more common that bootable USB. Another possibility would be to
keep the Journal on USB and everything else on the CD.
-walter
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Anyone
/removing activities by
far).
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CCing the Sugar list.
and adding devel.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering
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I prefer the Sugar learning platform
+1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the
latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.)
I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting
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Each of us seems to have interpreted Michael's note differently, so
perhaps some more clarity of definitions is in order. In any case, my
focus was on the assertion that there are no excellent way to
manipulate narratives within Sugar. Excellence is the standard we
should be striving for and I do
burned the new sugar-spin.
I have bootable USBs of other things.
So I think we will have the tools we need for diagnosis.
See you soon.
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I recommend the Fedora CD for today. If I get a chance, I'll try to
make a LiveUSB
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CCing the Sugar list.
It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming
too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K
05 October 2008 11:48:34 Walter Bender wrote:
You should only need an index.html file that points to your PDF.
html
meta http-equiv=refresh
content=0;url=file:///home/olpc/Library/[bundle name]/[PDF
name].pdf
/html
In the library/library.info file, there should be an activity_start
entry
underdeveloped relative to our goals may account for
the fact that feedback from the field has been so narrow.
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Anyone know much about U3 flash drives? Would this be the simplest
(for the end user) way of booting a LiveUSB image of Sugar? (I worry
about asking people to change their BIOS to enable USB boot as being
too off-putting.)
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Gary, this is a very helpful analysis. Thanks.
Arjun, I wonder if Measure isn't exceptional in regard to when it is
not in the foreground. I can imagine wanted to log data while doing
other things: It isn't clear it should go idle when not visible. My
naive guess would be to assume that a timer
/go/
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low priority relative to these other inconsistencies.
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We all agree that the datastore needs serious attention, although it
doesn't directly impact
technically-oriented parties involved. I have heard
echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused
by the behavior of the journal).
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http
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Submit_Bugs/Problems#Login_fail_on_Fedora_9
Which leads to a meta question: how should we be handling questions
regarding the distros? Is there Fedora support we should be directing
people to in the wiki? (The same question for Debian and Ubuntu.)
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On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Sameer Verma wrote:
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In fact
into the intermediary; keep Sugar simple.]
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Next generation journal has to be a very high priority for the next
release. It certainly impacts
* Greater Reliability
* Greater Performace
* Collaboration
And it is, IMHO, the biggest deficiency in the current UI.
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In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of
the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These
collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a
built
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Sounds like you have an unsigned 711.
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Here trying to revive sick machines from the Soboce deployment.
We have ironed them with a 711 USB flash chip, and got them to load
system, then loaded activities, then
I have finally gotten around to recreating the Gmail activity based on
Browse-96.
There is almost no resemblance to the original gmail activity, which
was based on the old web activity.
So the question is, do I try to make a giant patch, or just start from scratch?
-walter
diff -u
Wasn't there a Pippy example that used hulahop.WebActivity? I recall
we'd talked about making these be Pippy examples.
-walter
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I have finally
=== Sugar Digest ===
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The bulk of the discussion was in regard to the formation of
committees: David Farning
We'll be holding an initial discussion of how Sugar Labs can more
directly help with Sugar deployments on irc.freenode.net
(#sugar-meeting) on Wednesday, 10 Sept. at 14 UTC (10 EST). There is a
draft agenda in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam.
Hope you can join us.
regards.
What about the Activity manuals?
-walter
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Hi all,
What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia
and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on
the XO for G1G1.
Make all
Seems worth a try. Certainly logical.
-walter
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Attached to this email are both the original patch, which removes
automated screenshot acquisition from the sugar shell, and a patch
to activity.py in
Posted
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For that matter, Browse can render SVG files directly.
We had discussed this in Austin. It'd be great if there were a simple
way to do a Sugar screen capture as SVG as opposed to PNG. Not sure if
that would work for all of the GTK components, but everything else is
native SVG.
-walter
The folks who have been interested in the OLPC for health may be interested.
-walter
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On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:14 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Op 22 aug
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Farning, and Bernie Innocenti. We'll be holding our first meeting
I agree with your assessment. Note that right now (8.2-756), the mesh
icons don't show up on either the Neighborhood view or the Frame; that
is clearly not a satisfactory situation.
regards.
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Hello,
we have
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2. Minsky on learning: On
Could you please document this on the
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems page? Thanks.
-walter
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
sugar has been ported to OpenWRT as well... (as of August 2nd).
I think it's just a normal package in kamikaze,
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Why not let accessing of *deferred* Activities be handled by Journal ?
Because it involves an extra step or two that in practice people don't
take. Personally, I would even go to the extreme that the Home View
should by default open the most recent Journal entry (noun).
This is clearly
If 'resume' is there, should 'erase' be there also
-- what if the user mis-positions his click ?
I don't think erase should be accessible from the Home View.
it has taken me effort to mentally construct a role for the Journal.
If short cuts to the most-recent uses of the Activities are
FYI, we'll be having the FLOSS Manuals Sugar book sprint at the end of
the month as well. More chances to get some docs pulled together.
-walter
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
The upcoming Sucrose 0.82 release should have some nice release
Not surprisingly, my experience on different machines with different
versions of joyride and different collections of activities installed
is that it is very inconsistent. Sometimes it just works, but often
times, it gets hung on one or two activities, e.g., for a while, it
would get stuck on
=== Sugar Digest ===
1. Worth a read: Dave Farning sent a pointer to an Open University
report on the effectiveness of a FLOSS-like learning community in
formal educational settings (Please see
http://opensource.mit.edu/papers/FLOSSCOM_Wp4_PHASE2_REPORT_d1.pdf).
While the focus is on higher
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vision in regard to both its clarity and the degree to which it is
being promoted (Please see the email thread beginning with
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-August/001425.html).
While there is
Thought the RTL issues would relevant to the Sugar list...
-walter
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Date: Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Localization] Arabic Open Bugs in 8.2.0
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On Mon, Aug 04,
We need to put together a simple how to try Sugar page in the wiki
that is less geeky than the http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_system
page. Any thoughts on this?
thanks.
-walter
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We will have a Sugar Labs meeting tomorrow (Friday, August 1) at
14:00UTC, irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting (Please note the time
change).
The tentative agenda is below (and at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_1_August_2008_-_14.00_.28UTC.29):
Topic: Administrative
=== Sugar Digest ===
1. Award-winning: We can start referring to Sugar as award-winning
software. It earned a silver medal in the International Design
Excellence Awards '08 and was undoubtedly one of the reasons the OLPC
XO-1 laptop won the gold medal (Please see
Sorry to be late sending this reminder out: we'll be continuing last
week's meeting again today at 17:00UTC, irc.freenode.net
#sugar-meeting
Topic
* Review of minutes from 18 July meeting
Topic
Infrastructure status
* Hardware
* Hosting
* etc.
Topic
Key issues
*
Sorry all. I thought we were on for 17UTC, not 18UTC. Can we try again
next Friday at 17UTC? (1PM EST).
-walter
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
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Did you mean 18 UTC maybe? (ten minutes from now).
Marco
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Walter
I am steadfast in the opinion that stability and predictability are
much more important goals for 8.2 than trying to make significant
speed improvements. Also, do you know what build Miguel was basing his
assessment on?
-walter
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 to Marc's comment as well, that was posted while I was writing mine.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am steadfast in the opinion that stability and predictability are
much more important goals for 8.2 than trying to make significant
speed
instead of just turtle programs and gooey smalltalk...
Cannot let this one slip by uncommented on. Etoys is one place where
kids are doing real programming, as a means of achieving fluency about
many powerful ideas, not just syntax. But I unaware that children have
made contributions to Squeak
=== Sugar Digest ===
1. Oversight: We had a meeting of the acting oversight board (minutes
are available at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_July_18_2008_-_17.00_.28UTC.29).
2. Infrastructure: Ivan Krstić and Bernie Innocenti have been moving
the Sugar Labs
+1 for the ring
-10 for random
-walter
(Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record
activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in
Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.)
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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