[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-12-09

2008-12-09 Thread Walter Bender
(Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-Nov-28-Dec-5-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-12-01

2008-12-01 Thread Walter Bender
the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see [[:Image:2008-November-22-28-som.jpg|SOM]]). -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu Intrepid broken

2008-11-27 Thread Walter Bender
fixing, ubuntu-sugarteam... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-11-25

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
-101 * Read-61 === Sugar Labs === 5. Self-organizing map (SOM): Gary Martin has generated another SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see [[:Image:2008-November-15-21-som.jpg|SOM]]). -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] Activity updates in joyride (was Re: TurtleArt-18)

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
Yeah. I am not sure why rendering and caching SVG is so slow. Anyone out there have any tips on how to speed it up? -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Nov 2008, at 13:45, Walter Bender wrote: I did update the link in w.l.o/go/Activities/All

Re: [sugar] Activity updates in joyride (was Re: TurtleArt-18)

2008-11-24 Thread Walter Bender
)... and I'll even test the change correctly auto installs on XOs running 767-8.2 (but I can't do joyride only stuff, having no access to jhbuilds). On 23 Nov 2008, at 23:40, Walter Bender wrote: Announcing TurtleArt 18: .XO: http://sugarlabs.org/wiki/images/1/1c/TurtleArt-18.xo SOURCE: http

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] TurtleArt-18

2008-11-24 Thread Walter Bender
this purpose. Of course, direct l10n of the SVG is reasonably easy, so maybe this would be gilding the lily. cjl -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org #, fuzzy msgid msgstr Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n POT-Creation-Date: 2008-11-17 10:53-0500\n PO

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar used for kids with disabilities.

2008-11-24 Thread Walter Bender
/ ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs

[sugar] TurtleArt-18

2008-11-23 Thread Walter Bender
include Finnish language support and improved support for varying screen sizes. Localization teams: please review the translations and report any errors or omissions. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-11-17

2008-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
): Gary Martin has generated another SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-November-8-14-som.jpg). It is great that the peak in the center of the image is a cluster of Sugar, Work, Make, and Think. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Meeting reminder (Deployment team)

2008-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
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Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-11-15 Thread Walter Bender
enough space. Anyone have any experience getting this to work? Also, creating the USB image was **very** slow. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Stock items in Sugar

2008-11-15 Thread Walter Bender
that this is welcomed. Best Regards, Torello ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing

Re: [sugar] [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-13 Thread Walter Bender
805 7501 ___ Localization mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Walter Bender
of the morning for UI/design. Scott, it'd be great if you could join us. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-11-10

2008-11-10 Thread Walter Bender
-organizing map (SOM): Gary Martin has generated another SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-November-1-7-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Walter Bender
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[sugar] Sugar DIgest 2008-11-04

2008-11-04 Thread Walter Bender
see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-October-25-31-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-04 Thread Walter Bender
conference. (Scott) * Coordinate Walter to figure out which rooms we are using for the talks. (Samuel) * Contact people that offered housing to see if the offer is valid for the Sugar conference. (Marco) Please keep everyone informed on your progress. Thanks, Marco -- Walter Bender Sugar

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] membership guidelines again

2008-11-04 Thread Walter Bender
to renew their membership. An Individual member may resign their membership at any time. Involuntary -- An Individual membership may be revoke by an affirmative vote of a two-thirds majority of the members of the Foundation. -walter Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

2008-11-01 Thread Walter Bender
] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

[sugar] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-15

2008-10-31 Thread Walter Bender
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/TurtleArt/TurtleArt-15.tar.bz2 News: * shebang patch -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] USB Based Community Access - What could work technically?

2008-10-30 Thread Walter Bender
-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-27

2008-10-27 Thread Walter Bender
mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-October-18-24-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-25 Thread Walter Bender
mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Walter Bender
development. Opinions? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Walter Bender
-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Report cards on XO

2008-10-22 Thread Walter Bender
://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar

[sugar] announcing TurtleArt-13.xo

2008-10-21 Thread Walter Bender
/TurtleArt-13.xo enjoy. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-20

2008-10-20 Thread Walter Bender
week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-October-11-17-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org

[sugar] Fwd: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Walter Bender
forgot to reply-all -w -- Forwarded message -- From: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Tagged Journal Proposal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Haven't had a chance to review the talk note yet, but one observation based on Paul's comment

Re: [sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1

2008-10-14 Thread Walter Bender
/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-13

2008-10-13 Thread Walter Bender
). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] scrolling the journal list view (was Re: alt-tabbing to the Journal)

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Viewing PDFs from Browse

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http

[sugar] new module proposal: Turtle Art

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
on the web. * Brian Silverman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Walter Bender ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter Status of internationalization. * es and fr Code repository. * http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity Bug tracking system. * https://dev.laptop.org/query

Re: [sugar] U3 flash drives

2008-10-11 Thread Walter Bender
Much more common that bootable USB. Another possibility would be to keep the Journal on USB and everything else on the CD. -walter On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone

Re: [sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Bender
/removing activities by far). - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Walter Bender
-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
hand)!! -walter On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. and adding devel. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the Sugar learning platform +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-10-07 Thread Walter Bender
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Re: [sugar] Question from Uruguay

2008-10-06 Thread Walter Bender
(very popular among kids). ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-06

2008-10-06 Thread Walter Bender
on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-Sept-27-Oct-3-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Narrative

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
Each of us seems to have interpreted Michael's note differently, so perhaps some more clarity of definitions is in order. In any case, my focus was on the assertion that there are no excellent way to manipulate narratives within Sugar. Excellence is the standard we should be striving for and I do

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
burned the new sugar-spin. I have bootable USBs of other things. So I think we will have the tools we need for diagnosis. See you soon. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend the Fedora CD for today. If I get a chance, I'll try to make a LiveUSB

Re: [sugar] content bundle development

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
. Anonymous ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K

Re: [sugar] content bundle development

2008-10-05 Thread Walter Bender
05 October 2008 11:48:34 Walter Bender wrote: You should only need an index.html file that points to your PDF. html meta http-equiv=refresh content=0;url=file:///home/olpc/Library/[bundle name]/[PDF name].pdf /html In the library/library.info file, there should be an activity_start entry

Re: [sugar] adding versions to journal/datastore

2008-10-02 Thread Walter Bender
underdeveloped relative to our goals may account for the fact that feedback from the field has been so narrow. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo

Re: [sugar] adding versions to journal/datastore

2008-10-01 Thread Walter Bender
a bad first step. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-09-30

2008-09-30 Thread Walter Bender
on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-September-20-26-som.jpg). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] U3 flash drives

2008-09-29 Thread Walter Bender
Anyone know much about U3 flash drives? Would this be the simplest (for the end user) way of booting a LiveUSB image of Sugar? (I worry about asking people to change their BIOS to enable USB boot as being too off-putting.) -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] adding versions to journal/datastore

2008-09-29 Thread Walter Bender
/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-28 Thread Walter Bender
Gary, this is a very helpful analysis. Thanks. Arjun, I wonder if Measure isn't exceptional in regard to when it is not in the foreground. I can imagine wanted to log data while doing other things: It isn't clear it should go idle when not visible. My naive guess would be to assume that a timer

Re: [sugar] Secrete hidden Home view styles

2008-09-25 Thread Walter Bender
/go/ Hacking_Sugar and get the new builds most usable Home layout enabled :-) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-24 Thread Walter Bender
low priority relative to these other inconsistencies. -walter On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 04:16:17PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: We all agree that the datastore needs serious attention, although it doesn't directly impact

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Walter Bender
technically-oriented parties involved. I have heard echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused by the behavior of the journal). Erik -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar

[sugar] Sugar DIgest 2008-09-22

2008-09-22 Thread Walter Bender
map (SOM): Gary Martin has generated another SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2008-September-13-19-som.jpg). Deployment feedback was a major topic of discussion this week. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http

[sugar] Fedora question from the field

2008-09-21 Thread Walter Bender
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Submit_Bugs/Problems#Login_fail_on_Fedora_9 Which leads to a meta question: how should we be handling questions regarding the distros? Is there Fedora support we should be directing people to in the wiki? (The same question for Debian and Ubuntu.) -walter -- Walter

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Walter Bender
: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-21 Thread Walter Bender
into the intermediary; keep Sugar simple.] mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar Put any complexity into the intermediary; keep Sugar simple. +1 -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
Next generation journal has to be a very high priority for the next release. It certainly impacts * Greater Reliability * Greater Performace * Collaboration And it is, IMHO, the biggest deficiency in the current UI. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] Second pass in the 0.84 goals

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
^is^are^ :) On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections have been vetted and tested extensively and have a built

[sugar] Sugar oversight board meeting reminder

2008-09-18 Thread Walter Bender
.) -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] help! from Bolivia.

2008-09-09 Thread Walter Bender
Sounds like you have an unsigned 711. -walter On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Yama Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here trying to revive sick machines from the Soboce deployment. We have ironed them with a 711 USB flash chip, and got them to load system, then loaded activities, then

[sugar] Gmail Activity

2008-09-09 Thread Walter Bender
I have finally gotten around to recreating the Gmail activity based on Browse-96. There is almost no resemblance to the original gmail activity, which was based on the old web activity. So the question is, do I try to make a giant patch, or just start from scratch? -walter diff -u

Re: [sugar] Gmail Activity

2008-09-09 Thread Walter Bender
Wasn't there a Pippy example that used hulahop.WebActivity? I recall we'd talked about making these be Pippy examples. -walter On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have finally

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-09-08

2008-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Oversight Board: The Sugar Labs Oversight Board meet on Friday (See the minutes at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_5_September_2008_-_14.00_.28UTC.29). The bulk of the discussion was in regard to the formation of committees: David Farning

[sugar] Sugar deployment discussion

2008-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
We'll be holding an initial discussion of how Sugar Labs can more directly help with Sugar deployments on irc.freenode.net (#sugar-meeting) on Wednesday, 10 Sept. at 14 UTC (10 EST). There is a draft agenda in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam. Hope you can join us. regards.

Re: [sugar] Combined Sugar/XO manual outline

2008-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
What about the Activity manuals? -walter On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on the XO for G1G1. Make all

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] REVISED screenshots hurt

2008-09-05 Thread Walter Bender
Seems worth a try. Certainly logical. -walter On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Attached to this email are both the original patch, which removes automated screenshot acquisition from the sugar shell, and a patch to activity.py in

[sugar] Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting minutes

2008-09-05 Thread Walter Bender
Posted http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_5_September_2008_-_14.00_.28UTC.29 -walter ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] big images, resized images, SVG files

2008-09-04 Thread Walter Bender
For that matter, Browse can render SVG files directly. We had discussed this in Austin. It'd be great if there were a simple way to do a Sugar screen capture as SVG as opposed to PNG. Not sure if that would work for all of the GTK components, but everything else is native SVG. -walter

Re: [sugar] Sugar on the BeagleBoard using the OpenEmbedded toolkit.

2008-09-04 Thread Walter Bender
The folks who have been interested in the OLPC for health may be interested. -walter On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 13:14 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op 22 aug

[sugar] Sugar DIgest 2008-09-02

2008-09-02 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Election results: The Sugar community has cast their votes; the newly elected Sugar Oversight Board members are Walter Bender, Marco Pesenti Gritti, Tomeu Vizoso, Chris Ball, Greg Dekoenigsberg, David Farning, and Bernie Innocenti. We'll be holding our first meeting

Re: [sugar] Landing patches about the network devices UI

2008-08-25 Thread Walter Bender
I agree with your assessment. Note that right now (8.2-756), the mesh icons don't show up on either the Neighborhood view or the Frame; that is clearly not a satisfactory situation. regards. -walter On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, we have

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-08-25

2008-08-25 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Vote early and often: There is one more week to cast your ballot in the Sugar Oversight Board election. The Selectricity server was (unexpectedly) down for maintenance this past weekend; if you had trouble accessing the server, please try again. 2. Minsky on learning: On

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Embedded Sugar

2008-08-22 Thread Walter Bender
Could you please document this on the http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems page? Thanks. -walter On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, sugar has been ported to OpenWRT as well... (as of August 2nd). I think it's just a normal package in kamikaze,

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-08-18

2008-08-18 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Elections: The US presidential election is not the only opportunity to organize for change. The polls are open for the Sugar Labs oversight board (The list of candidates can be found at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Oversight_Board_Candidates_August_2008). Polls close

Re: [sugar] 0.84 goals

2008-08-15 Thread Walter Bender
Why not let accessing of *deferred* Activities be handled by Journal ? Because it involves an extra step or two that in practice people don't take. Personally, I would even go to the extreme that the Home View should by default open the most recent Journal entry (noun). This is clearly

Re: [sugar] 0.84 goals

2008-08-15 Thread Walter Bender
If 'resume' is there, should 'erase' be there also -- what if the user mis-positions his click ? I don't think erase should be accessible from the Home View. it has taken me effort to mentally construct a role for the Journal. If short cuts to the most-recent uses of the Activities are

Re: [sugar] Help making the release notes for Sucrose 0.82

2008-08-12 Thread Walter Bender
FYI, we'll be having the FLOSS Manuals Sugar book sprint at the end of the month as well. More chances to get some docs pulled together. -walter On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The upcoming Sucrose 0.82 release should have some nice release

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

2008-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
Not surprisingly, my experience on different machines with different versions of joyride and different collections of activities installed is that it is very inconsistent. Sometimes it just works, but often times, it gets hung on one or two activities, e.g., for a while, it would get stuck on

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-08-11

2008-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Worth a read: Dave Farning sent a pointer to an Open University report on the effectiveness of a FLOSS-like learning community in formal educational settings (Please see http://opensource.mit.edu/papers/FLOSSCOM_Wp4_PHASE2_REPORT_d1.pdf). While the focus is on higher

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-08-05

2008-08-05 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. The vision thing: There has been some discussion about the Sugar vision in regard to both its clarity and the degree to which it is being promoted (Please see the email thread beginning with http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-August/001425.html). While there is

[sugar] Fwd: [Localization] Arabic Open Bugs in 8.2.0

2008-08-04 Thread Walter Bender
Thought the RTL issues would relevant to the Sugar list... -walter -- Forwarded message -- From: Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Localization] Arabic Open Bugs in 8.2.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Aug 04,

[sugar] how to try Sugar page

2008-08-01 Thread Walter Bender
We need to put together a simple how to try Sugar page in the wiki that is less geeky than the http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_system page. Any thoughts on this? thanks. -walter ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

[sugar] Sugar Labs meeting reminder

2008-07-31 Thread Walter Bender
We will have a Sugar Labs meeting tomorrow (Friday, August 1) at 14:00UTC, irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting (Please note the time change). The tentative agenda is below (and at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_1_August_2008_-_14.00_.28UTC.29): Topic: Administrative

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-07-28

2008-07-28 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Award-winning: We can start referring to Sugar as award-winning software. It earned a silver medal in the International Design Excellence Awards '08 and was undoubtedly one of the reasons the OLPC XO-1 laptop won the gold medal (Please see

[sugar] meeting reminder

2008-07-25 Thread Walter Bender
Sorry to be late sending this reminder out: we'll be continuing last week's meeting again today at 17:00UTC, irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting Topic * Review of minutes from 18 July meeting Topic Infrastructure status * Hardware * Hosting * etc. Topic Key issues *

Re: [sugar] meeting reminder

2008-07-25 Thread Walter Bender
Sorry all. I thought we were on for 17UTC, not 18UTC. Can we try again next Friday at 17UTC? (1PM EST). -walter On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you mean 18 UTC maybe? (ten minutes from now). Marco On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Walter

Re: [sugar] Performance

2008-07-24 Thread Walter Bender
I am steadfast in the opinion that stability and predictability are much more important goals for 8.2 than trying to make significant speed improvements. Also, do you know what build Miguel was basing his assessment on? -walter On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [sugar] Performance

2008-07-24 Thread Walter Bender
+1 to Marc's comment as well, that was posted while I was writing mine. -walter On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am steadfast in the opinion that stability and predictability are much more important goals for 8.2 than trying to make significant speed

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-07-24 Thread Walter Bender
instead of just turtle programs and gooey smalltalk... Cannot let this one slip by uncommented on. Etoys is one place where kids are doing real programming, as a means of achieving fluency about many powerful ideas, not just syntax. But I unaware that children have made contributions to Squeak

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-07-21

2008-07-21 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Oversight: We had a meeting of the acting oversight board (minutes are available at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_July_18_2008_-_17.00_.28UTC.29). 2. Infrastructure: Ivan Krstić and Bernie Innocenti have been moving the Sugar Labs

Re: [sugar] Design Question

2008-07-18 Thread Walter Bender
+1 for the ring -10 for random -walter (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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