Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Walter Bender
Personally, I am on Yama's side on this one, if only for environmental reasons. (Although it would be great if someone could design a solar-powered printer where the toner was simply locally ground-up charcoal.) But a technical solution whereby some enterprising Bolivia--the next Marcelo

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:36, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Personally, I am on Yama's side on this one, if only for environmental reasons. (Although it would be great if someone could design a solar-powered printer where the toner was simply locally ground-up charcoal.) But a

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Ed McNierney
Marvin Minsky once said: Some day paper will be a luxury item for the rich. When the Apple LaserWriter was introduced, Steve Jobs noted that In the quest to create the 'paperless office' all we have accomplished is to create demand for higher-quality paper! - Ed

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-22 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Luke Faraone wrote: Not to mention, sugar should also target more developed nations, and one of the questions I _always_ get from teachers at talks I give is Can I print?. -lf There's a whole world of culture and ideology behind what you said, Luke. Yes, there is a need to consider

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Yama Ploskonka
When I am asked about whether the XO handles printing, I present that the fact it does not is a feature, not a bug. And people understand. It is not out of the ordinary that the life of school printers will be the life of the first set of ink cartridges or toner, there being no budget to

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop imagining that lowest-spec, cheapest hardware and crippleware is the answer - or that 3'rd World countries will never progress towards a reasonable standard. That attitude is patronizing and demeaning. And wrong. Hey -

Re: [sugar] [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Yama Ploskonka
hey Jeff, seems I got the bad end of that broadside... I am developing things for Bolivia, and I am known as someone who makes virtue out of lack of resources. That is why I (you're entitled to your opinion) see the lack of printing as a good thing - discourages the use of very, very limited