Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Aaron Kaplan
On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:26 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Looking at trac, wireless is one of the biggest sources of bugs and the community can hardly do anything about it. Normally, somebody who complains can be told to fix the code, but with a closed wireless firmware, complaining is

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Withrow
Aaron Kaplan wrote: there *are* open source layer 2 and layer 3 mesh software solutions out there. Not to forget Open80211S.org (http://www.open80211s.org/). -- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott, MA, USA ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Aaron Kaplan
On Apr 27, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Robert Withrow wrote: Aaron Kaplan wrote: there *are* open source layer 2 and layer 3 mesh software solutions out there. Not to forget Open80211S.org (http://www.open80211s.org/). yup! what is the current status on that actually? a.

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Luis Carlos Cobo
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 22:30 +0200, Aaron Kaplan wrote: On Apr 27, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Robert Withrow wrote: Aaron Kaplan wrote: there *are* open source layer 2 and layer 3 mesh software solutions out there. Not to forget Open80211S.org (http://www.open80211s.org/). yup! what

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Aaron Kaplan
what is the current status on that actually? It provides all the basic stuff (peer link establishment, HWMP), follows latest 802.11s draft, and can be used with zd1211rw and b43 drivers. It is also very easy to add support for other mac80211 drivers. The major missing pieces now are

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Luis Carlos Cobo
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Aaron Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, sounds nice. What is the maximum number of nodes that you tested with it so far? 12 -- Luis Carlos Cobo Rus GnuPG ID: 44019B60 cozybit Inc. ___ Sugar mailing list

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Aaron Kaplan
how much effort would it be to port it to mac80211? 12 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-05-08 Thread Luis Carlos Cobo
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Aaron Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how much effort would it be to port it to mac80211? I assume you mean using mac80211 in the XO. It is a significant effort requiring driver and firmware changes, as the current card is 'fullmac' and mac80211 only works with

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-24 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:27 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take two such laptops. Take them way out into the country so they can only communicate with each other. There are no access points. No laptop is acting as an access point, either. Can those two laptops

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilmore wrote: | The presence implementation only works on access points and on meshes -- | but not on non-meshed, ad-hoc 802.11. The vast majority of computers | with 802.11 don't have mesh, but they would benefit from being able to | see

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-23 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilmore wrote: | The presence implementation only works on access points and on meshes -- | but not on non-meshed, ad-hoc 802.11. The vast majority of computers | with 802.11

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilmore wrote: | The IETF ZeroConf protocols provide for self-assignment of IP | addresses in such a case. (The same thing happens if you plug two | laptops together with a short Ethernet cable and no DHCP server.) | | Does the OLPC Presence

Re: [sugar] Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-23 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 24.04.2008 02:00, Ricardo Carrano wrote: (...) This isn't what I was talking about. Forget about the mesh. Ban it from your mind. (...) the troublesome Mesh and just live with the 802.11b/g, Ban (...) the troublesome Mesh you say. Sigh. You forgot to quote the from your