Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[readding sugar] On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Could you do an experiment for me? Can you kill the >> journal activity and then try launching? > > Did 'ps -A', then 'kill ' (of the Journal task). > For what it's worth, launching 'Browse' then a

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities >> >> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? > > I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse > (from the tim

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-15 Thread Eben Eliason
There are three views I'd really like to see available in the Neighborhood (and Groups) views. We need a list view for true scalability and keyboard access. Next, I'd like two of the "cluster" views (like we have now), one of which sorts by distance, and the other of which (the default) sorts rad

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Would we be interested in incorporating distance information between nodes in the mesh view? One significant advantage that comes with distance information (besides that we provide a more meaningful network representation to the user) is that we can also save space by sorting icons around the ce

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: | One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install | compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not | use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle forma

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install >> compile .pyc files > > There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do > not expect to myself be changing Activity code --

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eben Eliason wrote: > > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to > managing

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to managing UI >> options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that in the long run >> it would be faster t

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * More notifications? > > > > How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more feedback? > > > Eben posted about th

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to managing UI > options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that in the long run > it would be faster to type something like "join writ

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
> > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August > > release? > > > > Personally I think it's OK. It won't hurt to try to do better if we > > have time obviously... > > Let me clarify. I think activities launch is OK. Stuff like frame > responsiveness and activity switch

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to managing UI options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that in the long run it would be faster to type something like "join write by Tom" which would have the same effect as many point-and-click actions in order to joi

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
Pentagram and myself have been putting effort into solidifying designs for Sugar Groups. In a first rendition, it shouldn't require much more than an extension of the invitation framework to support group invites, and a simple UI for creating a group. I think even without advanced features such as

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Gettys
Has Firefox 3- B5 landed in Joyride? it is much faster starting up than the FF3B2 we had in the older systems (not to mention immensely better on memory usage). - Jim On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:57 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install > compile .pyc files There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do not expect to myself be changing Activity code -- but if the OLPC is supposed to be "easy enough for a kid to program" - *someone*

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> If you could download the latest joyride, time startup and open a > ticket that would be useful. 25 seconds are too much obviously. I took the time on Joyride 1932, which had been manually updated (via yum install) with cups-libs 1:1.2.12-11.fc7 and telepathy-glib 0.7.8-1.olpc2, to bring it up

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle format update stuff, but I have gotten stuck on the signatures (openssl cannot read ssh

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? > > I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse > (from

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Walter Bender
was that joyride or the faster build? -walter On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities >> >> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? > > I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1.

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse (from the time I click in the F3 Activity Ring on the Browse icon, to the time when I can clic

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Walter Bender
> * New Sugar UI? Should continue with some specific goals on how to > roll out the new features so it won't be difficult for people. Wad > brought up the issue that Peru has already started printing a manual > based on the old UI. I've been talking with the Peru folks about this too. The percen

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.05.2008 11:48:19: > > > > > * Sugar on other distro (mgmt) > > > > On which other distro? Which are the requirements? What means "(mgmt)"? > > Would anybody mind if I start pus

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Andreas . Trawoeger
"Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.05.2008 11:48:19: > > * Sugar on other distro (mgmt) > > On which other distro? Which are the requirements? What means "(mgmt)"? Would anybody mind if I start pushing freedesktop.org Desktop Menu compliance: http://standards.freedesktop.org/m

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Datastore upgrade > > Which are the requirements for the DataStore in the August release? I think it was proposed to focus on backups for August and "address" stability concerns that way. At this date and with all t

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008 à 11:48 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit : > * Groups, models for groups (Peru, Hernan) > > Is this groups in Sugar? Do we have some kind of requirements? There are some discussions about groups here: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4043 G.

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 > > > > * More responsive UI - faster launch o

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 > > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? Perso

[sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? * More notifications? How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more fee