Re: [Sugar-devel] How is SoaS built?

2009-03-24 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi everyone, are there any pointers to how the SoaS build works? Is it using the Fedora livecd tools? Something else? more details below on what I am aiming for... cheers, martin Hi Martin, we're currently using some livecd-creator incarnation with this build

Re: [Sugar-devel] How is SoaS built?

2009-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: we're currently using some livecd-creator incarnation with this build script here [1] to get our live media created. But I don't know if you really want a live image being created. Cool. A live image will do,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 03/22/2009 05:18 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Heh, actually rpm has had %license special file attribute since rpm 2.5.4, it just doesn't really do much anything at all. It also doesn't play well together with %doc, AND since the ancient copyright - license tag change, %license as file

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 04:58:11AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Tom spot Callaway wrote: Now, if there were a clever way to handle this behind the scenes so that these license files were not duplicated if they were identical, but instead, symlinked to the license files in

[Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code proposal: Improvements in Listen and Spell (Chirag Jain)

2009-03-24 Thread chirag jain
Hi, I am a second year computer science student at NSIT. I am looking to participate in GSoC this year. I am interested in Listen Spell project. I am in contact with its potential mentor Mr. Assim Deodia. Based on the conversation and discussion with him I have created an idea list related to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Tom \spot\ Callaway wrote: On 03/22/2009 05:18 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Heh, actually rpm has had %license special file attribute since rpm 2.5.4, it just doesn't really do much anything at all. It also doesn't play well together with %doc, AND since the ancient

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:07:30AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: Basically, have rpm -V ignore timestamp verification on %license files. Make that have rpm -V ignore timestamp verification on files whose hardlink count is 1. That's reasonably in line with how rpm -V currently treats

[Sugar-devel] OLPC Afghanistan 1st deployment!

2009-03-24 Thread Svetlana Senajova
Dear all, It's our pleasure to announce that the 1st deployment of 395 XOs has happened in Afghanistan! Children of grades 4, 5 and 6 at Istiqlal high school in Jalalabad received their XOs on 17th of March 2009. XOs are fully localized into national languages of Afghanistan - Dari and Pashto,

[Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hello! Short summary: If you're using sugar-jhbuild on Debian, please run cd sugar-jhbuild rm -rf source/mozilla source/hulahop install ./sugar-jhbuild build before using anything web-related the next time. Otherwise (i.e. not running on Debian), please make sure

Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner

2009-03-24 Thread Morgan Collett
2009/3/24 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: Hello! Short summary: If you're using sugar-jhbuild on Debian, please run cd sugar-jhbuild rm -rf source/mozilla source/hulahop install ./sugar-jhbuild build before using anything web-related the next time. Otherwise (i.e. not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-24 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends on how well we can get collaboration working. I have had many failures

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
Kevin Kofler wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: So, the point to ship a license per package is fine. I actually did not want to relax that. I had the technical problem to need to access the license field to be able to display it in a dialog inside Sugar.

[Sugar-devel] GSoC applications open until April 3 - Please continue to promote Sugarlabs GSoC

2009-03-24 Thread Jameson Quinn
The Google Summer of Code applications period is open now, for both Sugar Labs http://socghop.appspot.com/org/show/google/gsoc2009/sugarlabs and other participating organizationshttp://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009, and runs until 3 April at 19:00 UTC. We have had a

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Sean DALY
I have just updated firmware to Q2E35, no boot either from SoaS-1 March 5th or SoaS March 21st. Both of these boot my Acer Aspire One no problem. Weirdly, following the instructions on this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manual_Firmware_Install failed with a bad CRC when the rom image was

Re: [Sugar-devel] VMWare?

2009-03-24 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Wade! On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: I do pretty much all my Sugar development on VMs running under Windows XP. I primarily use VMware but have used QEMU a bit too. Will VMWare do what we need for free? Are you voting for VMWare over the other

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Gsoc] SWF Sugar

2009-03-24 Thread Wade Brainerd
For what it's worth, I think that *both* Web and SWF activity frameworks are high priority. SWF is a mature ecosystem. We have Gnash, 1000s of developers, and 1000s of existing SWF apps (including the OLE Nepal content). Performance characteristics are well known. HTML5 is brand new. We are

Re: [Sugar-devel] VMWare?

2009-03-24 Thread Wade Brainerd
VMware Player is available free for PC. I'm not sure if it's free on Mac and Linux. I'm not advocating that we standardize on a single solution. Some deployments will already be using VMs and we should be able to easily provide VM images which work with any of VMware, Parallels, or VirtualBox.

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

2009-03-24 Thread Dave Bauer
I am having a more fundamental issue. 1) First I used liveusb-creator on windows with Soas1 and created the crc and img files to install to the NAND. That doesn't work for me. 2) Next I tried technique one from Fedora 10 but the livecd-iso-to-disk does not have the --xo options. It looks like

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Gsoc] SWF Sugar

2009-03-24 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:51 -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: For what it's worth, I think that *both* Web and SWF activity frameworks are high priority. Wade is right, both are important. HTML5 has great potential but is not a proven technology while flash is. I do not believe though that it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] VMWare?

2009-03-24 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: VMware Player is available free for PC.  I'm not sure if it's free on Mac and Linux. It is not, AFACIT, free on Mac; the server version is free on

Re: [Sugar-devel] VMWare?

2009-03-24 Thread Caroline Meeks
I've discussed it a bit in #sugar, and have decided to start a new project, SoaS-emu http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas-emu/, with the goal of producing one-click installers for SoaS on workstations. For various reasons I've decided to use VirtualBox, mostly becuase of our ability to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Phonology (was Re: Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.)

2009-03-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: :-) I'm no linguist, but we speak 3 languages in the house and I have been fascinated to observe that my kids seem to borrow phonemes between languages. I met somebody at a party once who said that has been documented in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Idea for SOC

2009-03-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 vishak baby wrote: I intend to create a platform where students can build their own objects using some tools given and colour them in their own way.But the most important thing is they can view their object in 3-D and rotate it as they wish.For

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
I had sugar-jhbuild running until somebody told me it would conflict with the Ubuntu Sugar packages. I uninstalled the packages, and now sugar-jhbuild hangs on startup. Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! unrecognised device identifier! (EE)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends on

Re: [Sugar-devel] How is SoaS built?

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, are there any pointers to how the SoaS build works? Is it using the Fedora livecd tools? Something else? more details below on what I am aiming for... Hey Martin, Good luck with Server on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Morgan Collett morgan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/24 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: Hello! Short summary: If you're using sugar-jhbuild on Debian, please run cd sugar-jhbuild rm -rf source/mozilla source/hulahop install ./sugar-jhbuild

Re: [Sugar-devel] Idea for SOC

2009-03-24 Thread NoiseEHC
Since my name was called: I think this would be a very nice feature to have. However, I do not think it is very likely to happen. 99.9% of Sugar users use Sugar on an OLPC XO-1 (maybe even more). In general, Sugar is designed to target low-powered devices. Blender will not be usable on

[Sugar-devel] [Invitation] Bug Triage Sessio n @ Thu Mar 26 10am – 12pm (sugar-de...@l ists.sugarlabs.org)

2009-03-24 Thread Frederick Grose
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros (was: Re: IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner)

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:35:23PM -0500, David Farning wrote: I have been trying to dog food Sugar on Jaunty. At least sugar-jhbuild is currently broken on a standard Jaunty install due to a major bug Ubuntu introduced to Python distutils. For now, only Ubuntu Intrepid and Fedora 10 work out

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Image Viewer 7

2009-03-24 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I have just release Image Viewer activity version 7, which contains fix for a nasty bug messing up the initial zoom level. Thanks to Tomeu for the patch. This is a release in the current stable branch, ie Sucrose 0.84. Thanks, Sayamindu NEWS: * Fix initial zoom level being extremely

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros (was: Re: IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner)

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
Thanks for the update! david 2009/3/24 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:35:23PM -0500, David Farning wrote: I have been trying to dog food Sugar on Jaunty. At least sugar-jhbuild is currently broken on a standard Jaunty install due to a major bug

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros (was: Re: IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner)

2009-03-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:39:39PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: I have installations working on Ubuntu jaunty and Debian squeeze, but both required workarounds that are not acceptable on a regular system. I have hope that these will be fixed in

Re: [Sugar-devel] How is SoaS built?

2009-03-24 Thread Sean DALY
coming in off the cuff here, but have we looked at headless network appliance type machines as school servers? On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:07:04PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What workarounds? Using Python 2.5 instead of Python 2.6 in Ubuntu Jaunty by changing the symlink /usr/bin/python (*), using python-gobject from sid as the one in squeeze is too old. The new one has passed the 10 day incubation

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros

2009-03-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:07:04PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What workarounds? Using Python 2.5 instead of Python 2.6 in Ubuntu Jaunty by changing the symlink /usr/bin/python

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Sugarize KDEEdu activity

2009-03-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.03.2009, at 21:48, Huda Sammour wrote: Hi, from the project description at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas#KDEEdu I realized that I should use GTK, is there any thing wrong? I don't know who wrote up that idea. I'd find it much more useful to make Qt apps

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:07:30AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: Basically, have rpm -V ignore timestamp verification on %license files. Make that have rpm -V ignore timestamp verification on files whose hardlink count is 1. That's reasonably in line with how rpm -V

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-24 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 10:26:23 Panu Matilainen wrote: Hmm okay, any user being able to modivy rpm -V behavior is not exactly good, although timestamp verify is pretty feeble business (considering rpm doesnt raise conflicts on timestamp differences). If it's shared, then it should at least

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:19:33AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: 1237918544.817512 STARTUP: Starting the shell moku...@mokurai-laptop:~/dev/jhbuild/sugar-jhbuild$ XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:08:24PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: (*) Really bad hack, will break updates of unrelated packages in very interesting ways. I must admit that I have little sympathy for Ubuntu when it breaks due to running ahead of Debian. As I consider to be the case here. While

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Jameson Quinn
It seems you are missing some undeclared dependencies. Try adding libpopt-dev, zip, unzip, python-gnome2, python-gnome2-desktop; I found these in an old version of the jhbuild page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Development_Team/Jhbuildoldid=21330#Dealing_with_dependencies Jameson On

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 06:05:28PM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: It seems you are missing some undeclared dependencies. There should be no undeclared dependencies. If you find any, please file a bug against sugar-jhbuild on dev.sugarlabs.org. Try adding libpopt-dev, zip, unzip, python-gnome2,

[Sugar-devel] aslo

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
activities-testing has been rebased from the upstream svn. The security on activities.sl.o has also been tightened. Please ping me if anything broke. david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Deepank Gupta
Hi, The proposal has been updated with the timeline also. Please have a look and comment on the same at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Educational_Toolkit in the 2009 GSoC Applications category. Thanks, Deepank http://deepank.blogspot.com On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Deepank Gupta

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-03-24

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ===Sugar Digest === I have been buried in meetings over the past few days, so I am a bit late in giving an update to the Sugar community. First, I want to wish Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero (dirakx) a rapid

[Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-24 Thread Bryan Berry
http://hg.olenepal.org/6_Maths_CoOrdinates_22_swf/ Subzero, I think this might be a great flash activity to redo for Karma. Let me know if you have trouble running it on your regular machine. It is in Nepali but I think you will be able to figure it out. I really like how it demonstrates the