[Sugar-devel] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread David Van Assche
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/inventing-a-new-paradigm-sugarlabs-and-the-sugar-ui/ enjoy David Van Assche -- Charles de Gaullehttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html - The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

2009-08-04 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:48, Christoph Derndorferchristoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks a lot for the release, I downloaded the appliance and tested it for a bit with VirtualBox 3.0.2. These are very

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 08:45, Christoph Derndorferchristoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:48, Christoph Derndorferchristoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks a lot for the release, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: We could make it a GConf property if it's really needed, but as you already know, I think we should have all the UI use a default of 10 and solely use Xft.dpi to scale it up and down. We don't need to discuss this now again, though. I would like to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Can I use the keep or title_set_by_user key of metadata to store info about my activity

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 03:09, sumit singhsumit.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tomeu, This is in continuation with our chat yesterday. The write/report activity would be having 3 states , I mean whether the user is working on a blank document , designing a new template or using a previously

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 09:55, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: We could make it a GConf property if it's really needed, but as you already know, I think we should have all the UI use a default of 10 and solely use Xft.dpi to scale it up and down. We

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Ok, what do you propose? A method to specify the font size (measured in points). This should be geared towards deployments, so it should be something that can be pre-set in global configuration, or customized through files that are not in conflict with

[Sugar-devel] Problems with Trac account

2009-08-04 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi, while submitting some bugs to Trac earlier today I ran into an odd issue: I had forgotten my previous password so I used the forgotten password function, got the mail, logged in, changed my password and was promptly thrown out again. Now I've played this game 3 or 4 times but I can't seem to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems with Trac account

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[forwarding to the systems list] On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:16, Christoph Derndorferchristoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, while submitting some bugs to Trac earlier today I ran into an odd issue: I had forgotten my previous password so I used the forgotten password function, got the mail,

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:08, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Ok, what do you propose? A method to specify the font size (measured in points). What font size would be that? This should be geared towards deployments, so it should be something

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: A method to specify the font size (measured in points). What font size would be that? That would be up to the deployments. For example, OLPC would choose 7. I guess we should, for improved accessibility. And would be convenient if the paddings,

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:33:53PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: It's going against an established system that ensures that fonts of the same point size are the same physical dimensions when shown on different screens and on paper. +1 Other Xft dependent applications run against a Sugar managed

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I'm forwarding this email from Paola, a teacher in Uruguay, about the recent changes in activities.sugarlabs.org. Please tell if translate.google.com is not good to enough to understand it and we'll see about getting a translation by a human. Regards, Tomeu 2009/8/3 Paola Bruccoleri

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
Great information in the comments The one thing that needs mentioning is the Jabber based collaboration element. The collaboration is very powerful, and built in fundamentally. I have created an EC2 AMI that can be started to allow on demand Jabber collaboration between sugar pcs. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:48, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: A method to specify the font size (measured in points). What font size would be that? That would be up to the deployments. For example, OLPC would choose 7. I meant to ask to which

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 21:39, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi Gary (and others), what was decided about buddy tagging? No one else has commented yet :-( Doesn't hurt pinging people, sometimes one doesn't reply because thinks someone

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-60

2009-08-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/29/2009 11:31 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: * fixed sharing bug * began 701 backward compatibility work * more debugging code Is it intentional that no tarball have been uploaded for this? I can only see that of version 59.

[Sugar-devel] code review (was Re: buddy tags)

2009-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 21:39, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: [snip] Though I'm not sure I have the stamina to get past your code reviews for any original coding. It's hard enough to get a bug fix r+ accepted when making a minimal tweak to existing code! ;-) I'm not sure what I can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-60

2009-08-04 Thread Walter Bender
oops. very sorry about that. -walter On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/29/2009 11:31 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: * fixed sharing bug * began 701 backward compatibility work * more debugging code Is it intentional that no tarball have been

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-60

2009-08-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/04/2009 02:39 PM, Walter Bender wrote: oops. very sorry about that. -walter NP :) Thanks for uploading. Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread Gabriel Eirea
(translation of Paola's comments; this is an issue I brought up a couple of times in the past) Hi.. This Saturday's afternoon I realized that on the sugarlabs site, where activities are, they removed the download button to download them easily. What is the reason?? Sincerely so many changes in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:07:42PM -0400, Dave Bauer wrote: Some discussion on irc of possible solutions [to ext3 problems]: We should be using ext2, not ext3, in the future so that we don't have a journal to corrupt. But there's still a long way to go before we have a filesystem whose media

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:52:31PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Some discussion on irc of possible solutions [to ext3 problems]: We should be using ext2, not ext3, in the future so that we don't have a journal to corrupt. That's no solution. You'll just corrupt the rest of the filesystem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:52:31PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Some discussion on irc of possible solutions [to ext3 problems]: We should be using ext2, not ext3, in the future so that we don't have a

Re: [Sugar-devel] About the need for .xo bundles (again) (was Re: safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?))

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 10:10:59PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: They haven't solved the problems we want to solve and are probably not even interested in trying. I'm a bit suprised you are not aware of this, there was a whole session dedicated to

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 4 Aug 2009, at 04:54, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Eben, On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:19, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Gary C

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:13:19AM -0400, Dave Bauer wrote: Some discussion on irc of possible solutions [to ext3 problems]: We should be using ext2, not ext3, in the future so that we don't have a journal to corrupt. Sorry that should say Datastore, not journal, as journal referred to the

[Sugar-devel] code review (was Re: buddy tags)

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu, I like your response but I'm surprised that you're confused about why your review process is getting bogged down, so I'll share my perspective in the hopes that you will find it helpful. In short, expecting the submitter to do all the work listed in your review process condemns many

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: I meant to ask to which UI elements this font size would apply to. All of them, the same way that the currently written 10 value does. That's all ok, but how do you see us moving from using Xft.dpi (that today can get us font sizes that look good on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:01, Dave Bauer wrote: Sorry that should say Datastore, not journal, as journal referred to the user interface to the Datastore. No, your terminology was correct the first time. (that's why ext3 is called a journaling filesystem) I don't think the logic is sound ,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
Sorry I don't speak spanish so we will have to depend on google translate. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Gabriel Eireagei...@gmail.com wrote: (translation of Paola's comments; this is an issue I brought up a couple of times in the past) Hi.. This Saturday's afternoon I realized that on the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

2009-08-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 03.08.2009, at 18:49, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 03.08.2009, at 01:02, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi everybody, I'm very happy to announce the availability of a new SoaS snapshot, http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas3-20090802.zip Please report all other issues you

[Sugar-devel] sugar and nfs

2009-08-04 Thread Philippe Clérié
I've been so focused on just getting sugar on a hard disk that I've hardly taken the time to think of what comes next. In particular, the next hurdle will probably be getting it to work with the home directories on nfs. Has there been any experience with that? My immediate concern is that the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
Let me know how I can help! Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment team! The existing deployment team information is at

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar and nfs

2009-08-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:04, Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net wrote: My immediate concern is that the usb stick starts up with a default user and there's no obvious way, from sugar, to change user names or even hostnames. As it well shouldn't. Such tasks require system administrator privlages

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: Let me know how I can help! Likewise. Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
This seems lika a bug. English site is fine has the download button but in the spanish site this button is not present. Probably is some error regarding localization... Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Sorry I don't speak spanish so

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar and nfs

2009-08-04 Thread Philippe Clérié
OK! So I'm covered. :-) Thanks -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. Anonymous On Tuesday 04 August 2009 14:39:43 Luke Faraone wrote: On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:04, Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net wrote: My immediate concern is that the usb stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
cc -= olpc-sur Bug filled to follow this issue. http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1134 Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrerodir...@gmail.com wrote: This seems lika a bug. English site is fine has the download button but in the spanish site this button

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need Help: usb drive not visible in the journal

2009-08-04 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:11 PM, sumit singh sumit.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim , Thanx a lot for your help. It worked. I was completely unaware of anything like that. Regards, sumit On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jim Simmonsnices...@gmail.com wrote: Sumit, I've experienced this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] sitio sugarlabs

2009-08-04 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hello David. We are thinking the same, our approach towards deployments has to be this way, and regardless of the tools we use is ideal to have persons in the middle that can interpretate the different needs of deployers, educators and developers to ''translate'' those to a common language.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-04 Thread Art Hunkins
With gtk.Label and gtk.Frame, I've been able to use the set_use_markup() property to get larger fonts, bold, italics, etc - by including XML markup in my text strings. However, this property does not exist for gtk.Button. Here is the relevent portion of a callback button that works fine (but

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug. The goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and the developer team. If we reflect on went well and what did not go so well last year. Not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug.  The goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and the

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Aug 2009, at 03:16, Gary C Martin wrote: The palette, on the other hand, doesn't work as you've mocked it up. The primary palette is a fixed height, and only supports single line primary and secondary titles. I think the tags/description belong in the secondary palette instead. See

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Gary C Martin wrote: Mock-ups amended, they now show self tags in the secondary palette area: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Proposals/Buddy_Tags Why are we calling this section tags? When I look at these mockups, I see a perfect illustration of a buddy profile [1], like an

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 4 Aug 2009, at 03:16, Gary C Martin wrote: The palette, on the other hand, doesn't work as you've mocked it up. The primary palette is a fixed height, and only supports single line primary and secondary titles. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: Mock-ups amended, they now show self tags in the secondary palette area:       http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Proposals/Buddy_Tags Why are we calling this section tags? When I

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: I still kind of like likes as the prompt, but something more general like profile could also work. I think Facebook's solution is very elegant here. Their status messages are simply prepended with your name, typeset differently from the body text. You can use this to

[Sugar-devel] Getting a gtk.image from the get_preview function

2009-08-04 Thread sumit singh
Hi all, I would like to ask what is the best way to get a gtk.Image from the data returned by get_preview function of activity.Activity fn of sugar. I want to make an image buttton using this data. Currently, I am doing it by saving the data in a temp file using the tempfile module of sugar and

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 5 Aug 2009, at 01:53, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: I still kind of like likes as the prompt, but something more general like profile could also work. I think Facebook's solution is very elegant here. Their status messages are simply prepended with your name,