Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/8/29 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Ok, so the idea is to focus our resources on the distribution level? I'm not very fond of that because: - polishing a distribution is _lots_ of work. Canonical, Novell, Redhat, etc. are putting lots of resources into there. I think that a small

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

2009-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 01:50, Jim Simmonsnices...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, I tried deleting /etc/olpc-security but that had no effect,  Even rebooting after deleting olpc-security had no effect.  I managed to copy the log messages from my previous efforts to the clipboard and save them to a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also use a handcrafted MBR which has a higher chance of *looking* right by various BIOSes - both when looking for USB-FDD, USB-ZIP and USB-HDD. Now, by

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also use a handcrafted MBR which has a higher chance of *looking* right by various BIOSes -

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] reworking karma.sugarlabs.org

2009-08-30 Thread Bryan Berry
I moved everything that was at k.sl.o to the old/ folder we need to use git for refreshing k.sl.o . scp and rsync'ing our changes is just a headache some time this week we should move the chakra/index.html to the root git directory so that will be the first thing people see when they go to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request Feature Freeze Exception for ticket #916 to allow sugar on non-xo hardware to register with a schoolserver

2009-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 13:23, Hamilton Chuahamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I would like to kindly request for an exception to the feature freeze currently in place to allow the inclusion of a patch that will enable sugar on non-xo hardware to register with a schoolserver. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

2009-08-30 Thread Jim Simmons
Tomeu, Your suggestion was right on the money. When I run a simple program from Terminal that prints out the files it finds it goes through my SD card (also mounted on /media) and seems to stall in the depths of the .olpc_store directory. What I think I need to do is write my own walk-like

[Sugar-devel] SoaS Test Day: Join the Support Team

2009-08-30 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi everybody, as noted in our roadmap for Sugar on a Stick [1], we are going to have a joint test day with the folks from Fedora's Quality Assurance [2] to improve the quality of SoaS on its way to version 2 (in November). The test day is scheduled to take place on September 3, which is this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:32:48AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 08/30/2009 06:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Please read the following: http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html#7 If you, after reading above, still feel that your questions are relevant (hint: I don't), then

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
I am in personal contact with Stallman (rms) on this. Who else here knows him? We have met several times at computing events, and discussed other questions in e-mail. I was a factor in his choice of the XO as his main computer, which unfortunately lasted only a short time, because he was unaware

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

2009-08-30 Thread Jim Simmons
Tomeu, It turned out that fixing the problem with .olpc.store was pretty simple and I now have an Activity that is functional. The next problem is, it works differently in .82 and .84. In .82 every file on the thumb drive and SD card is treated as a Journal entry and listed out by the datastore

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31:07AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 08/30/2009 10:15 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: So if I have now triggered your interest in this technique, Peter, then perhaps we will see interesting funky tricks in syslinux in the future? Well, this is really independent

[Sugar-devel] development team meeting

2009-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that feature freeze is past us, we should discuss how we are going to make sure that Sugar 0.88 is going to be a rock solid release. If you plan to help with testing, bug triaging or development, please considering passing by. A first

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

2009-08-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 03:21:18PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also use a handcrafted MBR

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

2009-08-30 Thread NoiseEHC
Okay, a little holiday happened with me and then had to read through 100+ olpc emails and then realized that there is a spam filter on my email which blocked sugar emails since july so it took some time to catch up but here I am... :) Martin Langhoff wrote: 2009/8/19 NoiseEHC

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

2009-08-30 Thread Caroline Meeks
I am at the GPA this Monday. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that feature freeze is past us, we should discuss how we are going to make sure that Sugar 0.88 is going to be a rock solid release.

[Sugar-devel] Does honey still serve a useful purpose?

2009-08-30 Thread David Farning
I have been looking at the process for creating and release new activities. I have been wondering, 'What is the advantage of distributing activities through distros as Honey?' It would seem that installing the activities as .xo bundles via the activity-bundle facility is more reliable and less

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-30 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the paper cut criteria? Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

2009-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: I am at the GPA this Monday. What about Tuesday at 16 UTC? Regards, Tomeu On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

2009-08-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/30/2009 09:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: I am at the GPA this Monday. What about Tuesday at 16 UTC? Regards, Tomeu Both times work for me. Cheers, Simon ___

[Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

2009-08-30 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely barren except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather unusable. What are some ways that we could make the function of this screen more discoverable? So far, I've thought of a couple of things which might do

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

2009-08-30 Thread Caroline Meeks
Tuesday Sept 1, at 1pm in Boston right? Yes I can be there till 2pm. Thanks, Caroline On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 08/30/2009 09:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: I am at

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v2 Beta Release - The Next Big Thing

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 21:46 +0200, Sebastian Dziallas escribió: Please download and test your version of this release from here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-beta.iso 6db05c91d2bc1a6c4af1044cea2ae0b6d63931af soas-2-beta.iso Hmm I can't find the image anywhere.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

2009-08-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 17:31 -0400, Michael Stone escribió: Folks, Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely barren except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather unusable. What are some ways that we could make the function of this screen more

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2258

2009-08-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2258.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-104.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2258-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-104.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] Does honey still serve a useful purpose?

2009-08-30 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi David, On 30 Aug 2009, at 20:25, David Farning wrote: I have been looking at the process for creating and release new activities. I have been wondering, 'What is the advantage of distributing activities through distros as Honey?' It would seem that installing the activities as .xo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

2009-08-30 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.orgwrote: El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 17:31 -0400, Michael Stone escribió: Folks, Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely barren except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather