Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for shutdown/reboot

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:32 +1000, James Cameron wrote: However, I've just applied the patch on os119 on XO-1.5, restarted Sugar and tested Restart and Shutdown options, and they function correctly. Restart causes a UL screen and reboot. Shutdown causes a UL screen and power off. As we're

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 01:19 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. - I might feel differently if I knew how to make D-Bus and ConsoleKit work sanely with chroots, which I care about deeply for purposes of testing. What's the problem? I do: mount --bind /var/run/dbus $ROOT/var/run/dbus I know

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for

2010-04-25 Thread Paul Fox
bernie wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 01:19 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. - I might feel differently if I knew how to make D-Bus and ConsoleKit work sanely with chroots, which I care about deeply for purposes of testing. What's the problem? I do: mount --bind

Re: [Sugar-devel] Support for EPUB with Read in sugar-jhbuild?

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 22:21 -0500, James Simmons wrote: 1). How do I get Read as delivered by sugar-jhbuld to work with EPUBs? 2). Does Read support EPUBs on SoaS right now? If not, what are our future plans regarding EPUB support? The only Linux reader that supports EPUB seems to be KDE's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for shutdown/reboot

2010-04-25 Thread Paul Fox
bernie wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:32 +1000, James Cameron wrote: However, I've just applied the patch on os119 on XO-1.5, restarted Sugar and tested Restart and Shutdown options, and they function correctly. Restart causes a UL screen and reboot. Shutdown causes a UL screen and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Support for EPUB with Read in sugar-jhbuild?

2010-04-25 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi, On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing another FLOSS Manual on e-books and Sugar and one of the things I'd like to do is get some screen shots of the Read Activity reading an EPUB e-book.  I modified Get Internet Archive Books to download EPUBs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Support for EPUB with Read in sugar-jhbuild?

2010-04-25 Thread Lucian Branescu
My GSoC project involves building an abstraction layer above pywebkitgtk/hulahop (wiki/AbstractBrowser). While the project itself isn't related, but this abstraction layer and one of it's lower layers (i.e. pywebkitgtk) could become part of the sugar toolkit. On 25 April 2010 17:56, Sayamindu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Support for EPUB with Read in sugar-jhbuild?

2010-04-25 Thread Lucian Branescu
My GSoC project involves building an abstraction layer above pywebkitgtk/hulahop (wiki/AbstractBrowser). While the project itself isn't related, this abstraction layer and one of it's lower layers (i.e. pywebkitgtk) would become a dependency of the sugar toolkit. On 25 April 2010 17:56,

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
This change considerably speeds up building the default target. As discussed on sugar-devel@, Etoys developers don't work in jhbuild, and Sugar core developers rarely need to test their changes against Etoys. To build Etoys and its dependencies, simply do one of: ./sugar-jhbuild build etoys

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 12:48 -0400, Paul Fox wrote: unified, perhaps, except that access from shell (last i looked) was fairly inadequate. So I'm not the only one to be disgusted by this trend? Modern Linux is becoming worryingly similar to MacOS and Windows. CLI support is being added as an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Support for EPUB with Read in sugar-jhbuild?

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:26:19PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Read should be able to render EPUB files if pywebkitgtk is installed. I thought I'd already added python-webkit to sugar-jhbuild, but apparently didn't. Fixed now. I.e. sugar-jhbuild depscheck will now ask for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 20:12 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This change considerably speeds up building the default target. As discussed on sugar-devel@, Etoys developers don't work in jhbuild, and Sugar core developers rarely

[Sugar-devel] Modern Linux trends (was: Re: [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for)

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 02:16:34PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: unified, perhaps, except that access from shell (last i looked) was fairly inadequate. So I'm not the only one to be disgusted by this trend? Certainly not. Modern Linux is becoming worryingly similar to MacOS and Windows. In

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.04.2010, at 20:29, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 20:12 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This change considerably speeds up building the default target. As discussed on sugar-devel@, Etoys developers don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:37:53PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: How do I get into the workflow? I submitted an almost working patch asking for help, got helped, submitted a working one, but now it's sitting there: You already got it right - the patch is blocking on me to figure out what

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
[Repost with fixed-up From address] On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This change considerably speeds up building the default target. As discussed on sugar-devel@, Etoys developers don't work in jhbuild, and Sugar core developers rarely need to test their

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Move etoys to the extra-activities group

2010-04-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.04.2010, at 20:53, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:37:53PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: How do I get into the workflow? I submitted an almost working patch asking for help, got helped, submitted a working one, but now it's sitting there: You already got it right -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 14:39 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This is the list of remaining targets in Fedora 13, once I've installed all the system dependencies: The situation is somewhat worse in Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid): logilab-common logilab-astng pylint These are required because Ubuntu is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:20:42PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: diff --git a/config/modulesets/tools.modules b/config/modulesets/tools.modules index 715c640..88f0ac2 100644 --- a/config/modulesets/tools.modules +++ b/config/modulesets/tools.modules @@ -30,17 +30,12 @@ dep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 14:39 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This is the list of remaining targets in Fedora 13, once I've installed all the system dependencies: The situation is somewhat worse in Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid):

Re: [Sugar-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:42:51PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The situation is somewhat worse in Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid): logilab-common logilab-astng pylint These are required because Ubuntu is still stuck with pylint 0.19. That's because Lucid was already in freeze when 0.20 came

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 23:59 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: - distutils id=dogtail -branch repo=fedorahosted/ -!-- sysdep: pyatspi -- - /distutils NAK. Please don't remove the package itself, just the dependency in meta-tools. We'll need it again in the future for UI testing.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 06:19:09PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: But if I remove this, wouldn't jhbuild try to build xulrunner from source? No, since the only package depending on xulrunner (hulahop) is installed from a distro package. Or am I still misunderstanding how jhbuild thinks?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Frederick Grose
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 06:19:09PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: ... [Hulahop] Fedora has 0.7.1. Lucid does not seem to have it at all. Was the package dropped or what? Oh, you're right. I got

Re: [Sugar-devel] Modern Linux trends (was: Re: [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for)

2010-04-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I am failing to resist responding to this troll. Dbus access from the command line is fairly good, and NM supports a number of static data files for configuration if that's what you want yo do. Fear not, scriptability of Unix systems is, if anything, *increasing*, as there are now powerful ways

Re: [Sugar-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 00:14 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:42:51PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: The situation is somewhat worse in Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid): logilab-common logilab-astng pylint These are required because Ubuntu is still stuck with pylint

Re: [Sugar-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Luke Faraone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/25/2010 06:14 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:42:51PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: python-xklavier Luke Faraone is working on packaging python-xklavier for Debian [1]. It's currently stuck in the Debian NEW queue [2].

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 00:33 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: Oh, you're right. I got confused by the many different Ubuntu releases; hulahop is only included up to Karmic. They have dropped hulahop from Lucid because it requires xulrunner and python-xpcom. That reminds me I should request Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Debian-olpc-devel] Streamlining jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 06:59:09PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: pylint 0.20 was released on 25 March 2010 (it was also included in Fedora 12). Exactly. By this time Lucid was already in Feature-, UI- and Documentation String Freeze [1]. There's no way pylint 0.20 could have been included;

[Sugar-devel] Drop Sugar from Lucid (was: Re: [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild)

2010-04-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 06:52:46PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: That reminds me I should request Sugar to be removed from Lucid. With almost no activities packages and no Browse to download them from activities.sugarlabs.org, it's pretty much useless to ordinary users. Please don't do this. It

Re: [Sugar-devel] Drop Sugar from Lucid

2010-04-25 Thread Luke Faraone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/25/2010 07:30 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 06:52:46PM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: That reminds me I should request Sugar to be removed from Lucid. With almost no activities packages and no Browse to download them from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Modern Linux trends

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 18:54 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I am failing to resist responding to this troll. Dbus access from the command line is fairly good, and NM supports a number of static data files for configuration if that's what you want yo do. Fear not, scriptability of Unix

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] #1725: Resize home window on screen size change

2010-04-25 Thread James Cameron
Looks good; checked it against pygtk docs. Not tested, can't resize on OLPC XO, so no impact expected. Reviewed-by: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shave off unnecessary dependencies from jhbuild

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
xulrunner-python-devel: we don't need it at all xulrunner-devel: not needed since we don't build hulahop from source dogtail: only needed on systems that build evince csound-devel: not needed since we don't build csound from source Tested on Fedora 13, Fedora 12 and Ubuntu 10.04. Signed-off-by:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 3/4] fix AP association failure after removing encryption #1674

2010-04-25 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 03:59:18PM -0300, Daniel Drake wrote: On 22 April 2010 23:01, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: The name has multiple purposes in Sugar and Network Manager interaction: 1. ?it identifies a connection (and Sugar was using it to identify an essid instead,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] use ConsoleKit instead of HAL for shutdown/reboot

2010-04-25 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:46:41AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: As we're there, how do we get rid of the useless UL screen with its ugly inverted color scheme? For OLPC builds we'd need a product safety review to remove it. ;-) For deployment builds, you could hide /usr/sbin/ul-warning ...

[Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 18:07 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: My GSoC project involves building an abstraction layer above pywebkitgtk/hulahop (wiki/AbstractBrowser). While the project itself isn't related, this abstraction layer and one of it's lower layers (i.e. pywebkitgtk) would become a