Re: [Sugar-devel] review process changes

2010-05-26 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:48:17PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > == Changes I would like to see == > > * Having _all_ reviews in the mailing list. The process already allows > patches to be sent and discussed in the mailing list, but restricts it > to "new feature[s] and reasonably big". It also s

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process changes

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 13:48, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > would be good to reach some consensus and finally change the review > process as defined in > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review Alternatively, we can stay with the same process and discuss instead the several oth

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Set the DISPLAY env var once Xephyr has been launched

2010-05-26 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed May 19 12:34:57 + 2010: > From: Tomeu Vizoso > > --- Please provide a more complete patch description. Only after Bernie posted his version of your patch did I understand what the point of it was. [src/jarabe/util/emulator.py] > @@ -152,11 +150,1

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add icons for the sorting options in the Journal

2010-05-26 Thread Andrés Ambrois
Thanks to Gary C. Martin for the icons. Signed-off-by: Andrés Ambrois --- icons/scalable/actions/Makefile.am |3 +++ icons/scalable/actions/view-created.svg | 21 + icons/scalable/actions/view-lastedit.svg | 23 +++ icons/scalable/actions/vi

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 12:00 -0300, Daniel Drake escribió: > As has been pointed out, there is some kernel code floating around > that is working in this direction. However, it's not totally correct > and the kernel developers want a more generic system rather than > something Geode-specific. An

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:57:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > For this sole strategic reason, I think we need to consider accepting > well-written patches that come to us in Spanish or in English. I agree. I don't think language, culture of origin, or degree of whitespace should prevent accept

Re: [Sugar-devel] Change default Neighborhood network settings for greater security

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34:04AM -0700, Frederick Grose wrote: > We simply have no way of knowing who the other users are with whom a > child can "make friends." How is this different from the lack of knowledge one has about the people one's children could meet at a city park? > All it would ta

[Sugar-devel] Really cool developments with SoaS v3

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Drake
There have been some nice little changes in various parts of SugarLabs recently which make me happy to see that core contributors are really thinking about sugar sustainability and sugar in the field, but I think we've all just been blown out of the water with 4 really great things about the new So

Re: [Sugar-devel] 3G Support: show connection errors- Patch 1759

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Castelo wrote: > Maybe if we show the network manager reason and a suggestion for the user is > enough for a first version. +1 I apologize for joining this conversation so late, I think it looks good already, We still need a universal friendly way to dis

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2010-05-26 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi SJ, On 20 May 2010, at 20:34, Samuel Klein wrote: > An aside about Physics - it was used with great happiness by the > children in Gaza, and features in some of the photos we just got back > from there. More as soon as we have release to publish them :-) Can't wait! It's always great to see

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH v1 00/10] Journal sorting by file size and creation time.

2010-05-26 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Andrés, On 24 May 2010, at 01:16, Andrés Ambrois wrote: > On Sunday 23 May 2010 04:08:51 pm Michael Stone wrote: >> Andrés, >> >> I've read these patches and tested them locally (with minor changes due to >> merge conflicts with some of my experimental work) and the results are quite >> pleas

[Sugar-devel] Change default Neighborhood network settings for greater security

2010-05-26 Thread Frederick Grose
Posted on the Sugar Labs wiki, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_New_Features#Change_default_Mesh_settings_for_greater_security , Change default Mesh settings for greater security We were very excited to try Sugar on a Stick (Mirabelle). However, I was very surprised to find lots of users with

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:57:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > Additionally, having a mixed-language codebase may be > off-putting to some potential contributors. It's also going to decrease consistency[1] and increase the bar to contribution to (ad absurdum) working knowledge of each language

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Stone
> First of all, thanks Esteban for the great work! I hope we can spin a > new build soon and give it a try. Thanks, that would indeed be helpful. Meanwhile, something else that you might spin around in your head while you make the build is "how do we make a virtual keyboard that works for all th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2010-05-25

2010-05-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I think this can be like the sugar-love tag. I don't know if we can involve volunteers in all the process, but may be i am ignorant al respect. Gonzalo On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:54:42PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > > > That's certainly tr

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
First of all, thanks Esteban for the great work! I hope we can spin a new build soon and give it a try. On the other hand, even though I also come from a Spanish speaking country, I'd say having all the code in English (the defacto lingua franca for code) would be best on the long term. It's an e

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 May 2010 18:12, Peter Robinson wrote: > That's not entirely true. The was no changes in CPU support from F-12 > to F-13. What has happened was a change in gcc which causes issues > with F-13 on geode processors. There's a bit missing from gcc for > geode support that would need to be added.

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu, Bert, James, Martin D., and Michael wrote: >> T: Thanks a lot for lending a hand here. My pleasure, and thanks for mentioning the ticket. >>> M: Final remark: this patch names variables, methods, and classes in >>> Spanish. Anyone troubled by this? >>> >>> (I ask because, while it's f

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > TBH I don't know what changed between F-12 and F-13. It wasn't > the compile flag changes as I checked them so I'm wondering > wondering why its suddenly a problem. gcc changed; it started emitting NOPL instructions under i686. - Chris. -- Chris Ball One Laptop Per Child _

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 09:29 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: > >> > I'm happy to hear this. F14 may bring interesting changes for the XO1, >> > can we hope that support for the Geode won't have been dropped by >> > then? >> >> There was

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-05-2010 a las 09:29 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: > > I'm happy to hear this. F14 may bring interesting changes for the XO1, > > can we hope that support for the Geode won't have been dropped by > > then? > > There was a bug report [1] that was filed about it to do with glibc. > Sinc

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:14:37AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > IMHO the whole code base should be in English. This is the language > we use for collaborating. +1 FWIW Martin pgpyCNHg72HXH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing li

[Sugar-devel] review process changes

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, would be good to reach some consensus and finally change the review process as defined in http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review == Changes I would like to see == * Having _all_ reviews in the mailing list. The process already allows patches to be sent and discussed in th

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process follow-up.

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:56, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:47:35AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> I want them to stop doing redundant work, > > Please tell me if I'm doing redundant work, and I'll back off.  It is > often difficult to know what work is being done, so without k

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch: use standard cursors in Paint

2010-05-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:42 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:40:44AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > > Use standard cursors for pencil, brush, eraser and paint-bucket. The > > other tools need a custom cursor. > > Bugs #40, #296 and OLPC #4316, #8864 > > Reviewed and tested .

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Set the DISPLAY env var once Xephyr has been launched

2010-05-26 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:05:11AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 23:15, James Cameron wrote: > > I'm unsure of the reasons for the change. > > > > Instead of setting DISPLAY and SUGAR_EMULATOR_PID environment variables > > repeatedly for each attempt to run Xephyr, set the v

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:14:37AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > IMHO the whole code base should be in English. This is the language we > use for collaborating. I agree. (Though personally I find unusual object names easy to deal with because I'm from a time when names had to be so abbreviate

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process follow-up.

2010-05-26 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:47:35AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > I want them to stop doing redundant work, Please tell me if I'm doing redundant work, and I'll back off. It is often difficult to know what work is being done, so without knowledge of this it is quite likely that redundancy will occ

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.05.2010, at 11:01, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 21:46, Michael Stone wrote: > >> Final remark: this patch names variables, methods, and classes in Spanish. >> Anyone troubled by this? >> >> (I ask because, while it's fine with me personally, I don't think I know a >> co

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Set the DISPLAY env var once Xephyr has been launched

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 23:21, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 19.05.2010, at 14:15, James Cameron wrote: >> >>  each attempt to run Xephyr > > Just want to mention that I've been using the VNC-based Sugar emulator for > quite a while, and it works much better than Xephyr. > > http://bugs.sugarlabs.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Set the DISPLAY env var once Xephyr has been launched

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 23:15, James Cameron wrote: > I'm unsure of the reasons for the change. > > Instead of setting DISPLAY and SUGAR_EMULATOR_PID environment variables > repeatedly for each attempt to run Xephyr, set the variables once. But that's what the patch does, moves setting those vari

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1686 UNSP: Accessibility - virtual keyboard

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 21:46, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:18:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 03:10:52PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 23:48, Sugar Labs Bugs >>> wrote: #1686: Accessibility - virtual keybo

Re: [Sugar-devel] review process follow-up.

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 17:48, David Farning wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> thanks a lot for putting some new energy on this discussion, there's >> certainly more opportunities for us in revising this process. > > Certainly, and I will do my best

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:12, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>> El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: >>> Is F-11 still the base OS for this? >>> >>> Unfortun

Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:12, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> El Tue, 25-05-2010 a las 19:16 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: >> >>> Is F-11 still the base OS for this? >> >> Unfortunately, this build is still based on Fedora 11. >> >> Fedora 13