[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar and sugar-presence-service have been branched

2010-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, sugar and sugar-presence-service have now a sucrose-0.88 branch for backporting fixes intended for future releases in the 0.88.x series. Unstable development leading to 0.90 will happen in master. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar and sugar-presence-service have been branched

2010-06-15 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, sugar and sugar-presence-service have now a sucrose-0.88 branch for backporting fixes intended for future releases in the 0.88.x series. Unstable development leading to 0.90 will happen in master. Cool.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar and sugar-presence-service have been branched

2010-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 14:26, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, sugar and sugar-presence-service have now a sucrose-0.88 branch for backporting fixes intended for future releases in the 0.88.x

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] HippoCanvas 0.3.1

2010-06-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, a new version of HippoCanvas has been released, get it at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/hippo-canvas/0.3/ Changes are basically bug fixes and improvements to introspection support. Packagers should be aware that the required PyGObject version has been updated to 2.21.2.

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity updater

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 14-06-2010 a las 11:41 -0500, David Farning escribió: To give credit where credit is due, the ASLO updater is just a update of Scott's code to parse the xml ASLO dynamically creates rather than micoroformat. Ah, I thought it was a rewrite because the codebase is so much shorter and

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-89

2010-06-15 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26952/turtle_art-89.xo Release notes: * added non-interactive mode (with help from Jamie Boisture) * fix problem with icon in F13 * block scale

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Alerting users in case of write errors

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:52:47 +0530, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: To sum up, these are the possible suggestions we have on the plate (please add if I missed anything)... 1. No fancy gimmicks, just the plain old NotifyAlert This sounds good for the Activity context. 2. A

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity updater

2010-06-15 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 14-06-2010 a las 11:41 -0500, David Farning escribió: To give credit where credit is due, the ASLO updater is just a update of Scott's code to parse the xml ASLO dynamically creates rather than micoroformat.

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [laptop.org #63512] OX on the Internet [Dan Healy]

2010-06-15 Thread Dan Healy
This forwarded message explains what I am looking for. It was sent to h...@laptop.org and they suggested I send it to this mail list. Any ideas, thoughts, or help would be appreciated. Dan H. -- Forwarded message -- From: h...@laptop.org Date: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM

[Sugar-devel] Journal Implementation Help

2010-06-15 Thread Quoc-Bao Vuong
I'm a student from Arlington and am spending full-time this week and next working on the IRC Activity. I'm trying to implement this feature: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/581 - which is to have the IRC Activity recover some information from the Journal when a saved instance is resumed (namely,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Implementation Help

2010-06-15 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Quoc-Bao Vuong vq...@lv5.org wrote: I'm a student from Arlington and am spending full-time this week and next working on the IRC Activity. I'm trying to implement this feature: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/581 - which is to have the IRC Activity recover

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Journal: Fix for sl#1842

2010-06-15 Thread anishmangal2002
From: anishmangal2002 anishmangal2...@gmail.com volumestoolbar.py now catches the IOError and ValueError exceptions and emits 'volume-error' which is caught in journalactivity.py which inturn displayes the error as a NotifyRedAlert message. Signed-off-by: anishmangal2002

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] fix malformed svg module-updater icon revealed in F13

2010-06-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2010 09:55 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: OK, not strictly a patch but attached is an updated version of the currently malformed svg module-updater icon that's not drawing correctly in F13. Not sure who this needs to get to (could only find it in Bernie's old depreciated software update

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Anish Mangal
Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. Perhaps an icon (or a set of icons) could be added to frame to graphically

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/15/2010 05:48 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. That's a great question!

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Implementation Help

2010-06-15 Thread James Simmons
Bao, Metadata *should* work just as well as saving the properties to the Journal entry. In practice it's a bit more complicated. In Sugar .82 and below custom metadata does not persist across reboots. This is fixed now, but if you have any ambition to support .82 you need to consider that.

[Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Bernie, in Paraguay, how did you manage the situation with GNOME and protecting Sugar from obvious damage. Back then, the first apparent issue was that ~/Activities appeared right in the middle of the gnome file manager, and was way too tempting to mess with it (and messing with it would kill

Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because the binary links against the wrong version of libssl. This activity is used very often in deployments for presentations, training sessions, etc, so

[Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Lack of some ASLO features was mentioned several times in this mailing list. I'm going to start implementing some of them from this week. Here it is my preliminary TODO (not prioritized list): * Support(revert) of per architecture uploads, there are bunch of activities that are

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 18:03 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: I personally think that per-activity numbers are often more interesting than system-wide numbers. As such, I would associate the resource utilization statistics with each running activity's icon in the taskbar (top frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Frederick Grose
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: On 06/15/2010 05:48 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, - How did you solve the problem? There was mention on the list of a .hidden file with hints to the file manager, did you use that? Something else? The .hidden file has its disadvantages: we don't have a way to browse the source code of all the activities in Sugar, but GNOME can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
I think its an great and necessary idea. In the field, kids learn that the computer has limits only by the painful way. Last year, in our first 4000 laptops deployment, just a few dyas later, kids were complaining that la compu (the laptop) was dying. Only after seeing it happen we realized that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
I think its an great and necessary idea. In the field, kids learn that the computer has limits only by the painful way. Last year, in our first 4000 laptops deployment, just a few dyas later, kids were complaining that la compu (the laptop) was dying. Only after seeing it happen we realized that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Martin Abente
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic chip icon, whose palette would display two gauges representing an approximation of free memory and free cpu, computed from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread forster
Furthermore, what all system parameters should be made available through such a means (such as free memory, and cpu load)? Suggestions and opinions welcome! Time and date would be good. I am not sure how important memory and cpu are to the average user but there's plenty of room in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [laptop.org #63512] OX on the Internet [Dan Healy]

2010-06-15 Thread forster
Is there an online source for the workings of the OX? �I would be gladbr to gobr there and check that out.br Hi You can view the source at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Source_Code you might read http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac Tony

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Martin, is the deployment also worried about kids deleting activities inside Sugar? If so, it sounds like we want a general undeletable flag set on ~/Activities/ (that the disk-full script can bypass). Doesn't seem to be a way to achieve that, though. If we wanted to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 18:27 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: in Paraguay, how did you manage the situation with GNOME and protecting Sugar from obvious damage. Back then, the first apparent issue was that ~/Activities appeared right in the middle of the gnome file manager, and was way too

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-15 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:31:50PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Lack of some ASLO features was mentioned several times in this mailing list. I'm going to start implementing some of them from this week. Here it is my preliminary TODO (not prioritized list): * By default, ASLO just an

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 19:13 -0400, Martin Abente escribió: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic chip icon, whose palette would display two gauges representing

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Analysis help needed re: sugargame (pygame) on the 1.0XO (build 802)

2010-06-15 Thread George Hunt
To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:20:05 -0400 Subject: Analysis help needed re: sugargame (pygame) on the 1.0XO (build 802) Hi everyone, I've been developing a thumbnail slide sorting activity using pygame on my 1.5XO. I've been happy with the ease of laying out the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread Paul Fox
[ cc: trimmed back to just the list ] bernie wrote: El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 19:13 -0400, Martin Abente escribió: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:31:08 -0400, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: So, to keep the code and the UI simple enough, I'd propose starting with a very basic

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-15 Thread forster
Rather than preventing breakage at all costs, which is rather hard, we could spend some time to improve our backup/restore procedures to minimize the chance of user data loss. I like the idea of backup/restore It is more consistent with the ideals in Walter's

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:55:20AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:31:50PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Lack of some ASLO features was mentioned several times in this mailing list. I'm going to start implementing some of them from this week. Here it is my preliminary

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-15 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:55:20AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:31:50PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Lack of some ASLO features was mentioned several times in this mailing list. I'm going to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Implementation Help

2010-06-15 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:37:32PM -0400, Quoc-Bao Vuong wrote: When making the write_file(), I was able to read in the current nickname, server, and channels. When I try putting them back in when opening the latest journal, I just get the default settings. Default nickname, default server,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-15 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be the ideal way to make these numbers available to the user. Frame