[Sugar-devel] Taking over Browse maintainership

2010-06-16 Thread Sascha Silbe
[Resend because mail with non-subscribed sender address was silented dropped] Since Browse has been unmaintained for several months [1] now, Lucian and I finally decided to step up as maintainers. This does NOT mean the current Browse will see a lot of improvements or even just bug fixes, as

[Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest practical downside will be that Sugar 0.90 will only run on next-cycle distros (Fedora 14, Ubuntu Maverick, etc) unless people backport a lot of other packages (not

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.88 Activities Font Size Problems

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hola Jorge, On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 22:04, Jorge Saldivar jorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, sorry for bothering. We are having problems with the fonts size in activities toolbars, tooltips, buttons labels, and all the things related with the activities main window. It is a really

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [laptop.org #63512] OX on the Internet [Dan Healy]

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 18:34, Dan Healy dfhe...@gmail.com wrote: This forwarded message explains what I am looking for.  It was sent to h...@laptop.org and they suggested I send it to this mail list. Any ideas, thoughts, or help would be appreciated. Dan H. -- Forwarded message

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Analysis help needed re: sugargame (pygame) on the 1.0XO (build 802)

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi George, On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:40, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: As  I understand it, Sugargame puts a gtk.socket into an eventbox, and the event box is loaded into the XO's VBox by the sugar.graphics.window.set_canvas function -- which is a super of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 07:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as free memory, CPU load, etc. I'd like form an opinion as to what should be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-Devel] Sugar Web Engine

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 15:33, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I've received even less feedback from upstreams about their respective engines. There are still 2 issues: 1) Mozilla have given up on having xulrunner work as a distro-provided VM and now they just bundle it..

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed Jun 16 09:27:17 + 2010: anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? What are the required packages (including minimum version numbers)? How stable are the APIs? The upsides

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-Devel] Sugar Web Engine

2010-06-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
Unfortunately, that doesn't solve any of my problems. I would gladly drop hulahop entirely (it's a mess and very low-level), but several people have expressed concern that gecko might be a better choice long-term. However, I have not been able to confirm any of their performance concerns. In my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Taking over Browse maintainership

2010-06-16 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: [Resend because mail with non-subscribed sender address was silented dropped] Since Browse has been unmaintained for several months [1] now, Lucian and I finally decided to step up as maintainers. This

Re: [Sugar-devel] Taking over Browse maintainership

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:50, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: [Resend because mail with non-subscribed sender address was silented dropped] Since Browse has been unmaintained for several months

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Your thoughts on My proposed feature Revised_Browse_default-bookmarks

2010-06-16 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Sascha: Thanks for the feedback. I met with mchua this morning on #sugar-meeting and It looks like the proposal is to just add 1 item to existing Browse start new screen for the Soas Spin only. A Crude mock up is available at http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/index6.html The idea is

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: During the last development cycle we lacked the time to lock-down GNOME a little more and we're still paying the consequences :-( Ouch.  - Were there any other problems? Solutions? Indeed, some kids manage to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Taking over Browse maintainership

2010-06-16 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed Jun 16 11:00:27 + 2010: Excellent, unless someone speaks up against it, please update this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Modules Done. Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 22:31 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: Here it is my preliminary TODO (not prioritized list): * Support(revert) of per architecture uploads, there are bunch of activities that are binaries and having requirement to have all supported blobs could be overkill for

Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 27-04-2010 a las 15:27 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because the binary links against the wrong version of libssl. This activity is used very

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest practical downside will be that Sugar 0.90 will only run on next-cycle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 09:17 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au escribió: Time and date would be good. Good catch :-) I am not sure how important memory and cpu are to the average user but there's plenty of room in the frame at the moment. Any extra displayed data adds to the cognitive

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:55:25 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 07:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:18:31AM +0530, Anish Mangal wrote: Sugar presently lacks a means to display the current status of system resources such as

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 15:17, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 15:17, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Alexsey; Maybe simple preliminary workaround for incompatible activity downloads: Could a Group of working activities be created for each sugar version ie 0.84/0.86/0.88 to be selected by user on opening ASLO? Tom Gilliard satellit Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 22:31

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:28, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 15:17, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Tomeu Vizoso

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:28, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 15:17, Peter Robinson

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 08:19 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: Indeed, some kids manage to do damage Sugar, with or without intention. More frequently, they mess up the panel icons in ways that make it difficult to restore functionality. Mess up the panel icons in Sugar or in Gnome? In

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
+1 PyGI as a working dependency would make Browse work somewhat easier and would assure Browse's future. On 16 June 2010 10:27, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.88 Activities Font Size Problems

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Saldivar
On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hola Jorge, On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 22:04, Jorge Saldivarjorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, sorry for bothering. We are having problems with the fonts size in activities toolbars, tooltips, buttons labels, and all the things related

Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-16 Thread Luke Faraone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/2010 10:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Yes, it's the individual applications, but it's hard for users to figure out why the disk became full after using Firefox, and how to solve the problem. Try

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I don't know about RH, but @ litl we're using all-introspected bindings w/ a distro based on Ubuntu Hardy. So backporting shouldn't be too painful, really. (Of course, we're not using the python introspection, so you might have other troubles there.) +1 on introspection in general. Hopefully

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.88 Activities Font Size Problems

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:41, Jorge Saldivar jorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hola Jorge, On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 22:04, Jorge Saldivarjorgesaldi...@gmail.com  wrote: Hi all, sorry for bothering. We are having problems with the fonts size

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:59, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: I don't know about RH, but @ litl we're using all-introspected bindings w/ a distro based on Ubuntu Hardy.  So backporting shouldn't be too painful, really. glib sounds to me like the most problematic dependency to

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 June 2010 04:27, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest practical downside will be that Sugar 0.90 will only run on next-cycle distros (Fedora 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] HippoCanvas 0.3.1

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/15/2010 03:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, a new version of HippoCanvas has been released, get it at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/hippo-canvas/0.3/ Changes are basically bug fixes and improvements to introspection support. Packagers should be aware that the required

Re: [Sugar-devel] Taking over Browse maintainership

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/16/2010 10:08 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: [Resend because mail with non-subscribed sender address was silented dropped] Since Browse has been unmaintained for several months [1] now, Lucian and I finally decided to step up as maintainers. This does NOT mean the current Browse will see a

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.88 Activities Font Size Problems

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Saldivar
On 06/16/2010 11:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:08, Jorge Saldivarjorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/16/2010 11:00 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:41, Jorge Saldivarjorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Abacus-13

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/10/2010 05:30 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4293 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26944/abacus-13.xo Release notes: * added save/restore of custom abacus parameters

Re: [Sugar-devel] activity updater

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/14/2010 11:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 23:51, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sun, 13-06-2010 a las 20:55 +0100, Gary C Martin escribió: OK, not strictly a patch but attached is an updated version of the currently malformed svg module-updater icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 07:32 -0700, Thomas C Gilliard escribió: Alexsey; Maybe simple preliminary workaround for incompatible activity downloads: Could a Group of working activities be created for each sugar version ie 0.84/0.86/0.88 to be selected by user on opening ASLO? This can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/14/2010 08:03 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 16:15, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sat, 12-06-2010 a las 10:26 +0200, Simon Schampijer escribió: PS I'm sure Walter will back me up here! Can someone explain me what a development manager is? Didn't we

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:28:20AM -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: * just regular uploads w/o need to be logged in to download them;  later, there could be experimental status set by developer e.g.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:34:10AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 22:31 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: * Support per languages uploads. In some cases (GCompris, OOo4Kids) all languages in one bundle weights too much and per locale bundles makes sense. While

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Displaying the current status of system resources (such as memory, cpu)

2010-06-16 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:55:25AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I would agree with James in that the amount of free memory is probably the most useful metric we can provide. Wonder if we could tie it graphically with activity launching. I propose a simple square icon with colour fill from bottom

[Sugar-devel] [Read PATCH] don't break if HAL is not available

2010-06-16 Thread Sascha Silbe
HAL is only used for displaying the current battery status, so it's entirely optional. Signed-off-by: Sascha Silbe sascha-...@silbe.org --- readtopbar.py | 26 +++--- 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-) diff --git a/readtopbar.py b/readtopbar.py index

Re: [Sugar-devel] New ASLO features to implement

2010-06-16 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:34:10AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 22:31 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: * Support per languages uploads. In some cases (GCompris, OOo4Kids)   all languages in one

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Read PATCH] don't break if HAL is not available

2010-06-16 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/16/2010 06:22 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: +except dbus.DBusException: +pass It might be worth logging an explanation like NOTICE: Battery tray icon not displayed because HAL is not available. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-16 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 06:27:55PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: I saw the talk from Mark Shuttleworth at Linuxtag and he said a few words on Releases, and why is makes sense to bundle forces. Basically, bundling forces is a powerful idea behind open source. We are a small project, if we

Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11

2010-06-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 13:34 -0400, Carlos Daniel Garay Ayala escribió: Is available on ASLO as activity VNCLauncher. I can't find it in the public list nor in the review queue. Can you try again? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, While sugarizing GCompris, I've implemented new ShareButton style in polyol[1] (while changing share status it pulsing by setting alpha channel). I think it would be not bad to use the same style for all combobox like tool buttons. [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Aleksey, On 17 Jun 2010, at 04:41, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While sugarizing GCompris, I've implemented new ShareButton style in polyol[1] (while changing share status it pulsing by setting alpha channel). I think it would be not bad to use the same style for all combobox like tool

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Frederick Grose
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.orgwrote: Hi all, While sugarizing GCompris, I've implemented new ShareButton style in polyol[1] (while changing share status it pulsing by setting alpha channel). I think it would be not bad to use the same style for all

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:09:24AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.orgwrote: Hi all, While sugarizing GCompris, I've implemented new ShareButton style in polyol[1] (while changing share status it pulsing by setting alpha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 04:47:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:09:24AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.orgwrote: Hi all, While sugarizing GCompris, I've implemented new ShareButton style in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 04:47:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:09:24AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: ...

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] New share button style

2010-06-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:42:58AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 04:47:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:09:24AM -0400, Frederick Grose wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010