Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 76

2010-06-18 Thread John Samuel
Thanks for your reply Mr. Simmons, I had gone through the manual before writing the code. The problem is that I use a separate window to display the program, hence the program pops out. I need guidance in running the program in the default window of Sugar. Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:01:05

Re: [Sugar-devel] RD vs Product Support

2010-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 00:56, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 18:27 +0200, Simon Schampijer escribió: I saw the talk from Mark Shuttleworth at Linuxtag and he said a few words on Releases, and why is makes sense to bundle forces. Basically, bundling forces

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:33, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:28, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 15:17, Peter Robinson

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:10, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 16 June 2010 04:27, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: anybody has thoughts about the convenience (or not) of making Sugar depend on the introspection stack in GNOME 3.0? The biggest practical downside will be

[Sugar-devel] Alt-Tab, sugar-settings-manager (was: [IAEP] F11-0.88 os260py)

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Fri Jun 18 03:26:56 + 2010: With this build, all the major regression relative to 0.84 are fixed. Congratulations! * Make ALT-TAB work. It was caused by a bug with XUngrabKey() in the old Xorg server of Fedora 11, but we worked it around

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-Devel] Sugar Web Engine

2010-06-18 Thread Lucian Branescu
After much trouble getting hulahop xpcom to work in the abstraction layer webwrap, I've decided to drop it and focus on pywebkitgtk. To this end, yesterday I got Browse to start and load pages with pywebkitgtk, but with several features disabled. I'll be working on getting all of Browse's

Re: [Sugar-devel] RD vs Product Support

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Jun 17 22:56:27 + 2010: [RD vs. Finished Product] Every time I see a hypothetical design blocking the delivery of a quick effective solution available today, I think that we should rethink our project structure to minimize this tension.

Re: [Sugar-devel] RD vs Product Support

2010-06-18 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Jun 17 22:56:27 + 2010: [RD vs. Finished Product] Every time I see a hypothetical design blocking the delivery of a quick effective solution available

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help Needed - Convert python code into Sugar

2010-06-18 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:48:56PM +, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from John Samuel's message of Thu Jun 17 10:28:52 + 2010: Hi, this is John Samuel here.I am new to Sugar. I've made a small program in python for the viewing of images.It runs perfectly as a standalone program, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 05:04, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: It has been mentioned that by updating these dependencies, we'll have to build some more modules in jhbuild for distros such as Debian which won't have it for now in their current versions and that this will raise

[Sugar-devel] Help Activity -- Spanish translation?

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi David, Brian, list, Is there any translation of the Help activity to Spanish? Or anyone working on it? If it was to be done, should potential translators work on the FLOSS Manuals version? (The terms 'help' and 'translation' are so generic that Google doesn't help finding good leads...)

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 18 June 2010 05:04, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: It has been mentioned that by updating these dependencies, we'll have to build some more modules in jhbuild for distros such as Debian which won't have

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Fri Jun 18 14:29:39 + 2010: If you wait for Debian you'll likely be waiting a long time. Please note that we're talking about Sugar development (i.e. sugar-jhbuild) on Debian unstable here, which is usually rather current. Native Debian packages to go

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 10:59, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: My view: don't let it hold back. Make the change, hack jhbuild, and put pressure on them to push the package updates. If somebody else volunteers to maintain a sugar-jhbuild that replaces major libraries shipped by

Re: [Sugar-devel] RD vs Product Support

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: At the same time, I'm seeing a number of very skilled Sugar hackers who would be more inclined to work on complex innovative projects and would therefore prefer a less structured approach. Long term, both approaches

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add font dpi schema

2010-06-18 Thread jorgesaldivar
From: Jorge Saldivar jsaldi...@paraguayeduca.org --- data/sugar.schemas.in | 12 +++- 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/data/sugar.schemas.in b/data/sugar.schemas.in index b9606ba..78aea9d 100644 --- a/data/sugar.schemas.in +++ b/data/sugar.schemas.in @@

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Fri Jun 18 16:08:34 + 2010: Fair points, but these are all Debian's problems, in my opinion. It falls into the We're innovating, can you keep up? camp. No, they're my problem because I develop Sugar on Debian systems. Can you afford to leave me

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hypothetical sugar-0.90 material, draft 1.

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:47 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Could you briefly explain what bundling forces means? How about rowing in sync? From LWN's coverage: For a while now, Mark has been pushing the idea of a coordinated cadence across multiple projects.

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 June 2010 12:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org No, they're my problem because I develop Sugar on Debian systems. Can you afford to leave me behind? Is it worth the advantage of being able to use introspection (or whatever other bleeding edge technology that requires

Re: [Sugar-devel] Last changes before release Paint

2010-06-18 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Gonzalo, Neat work. Ok. Pushed. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.comwrote: I have two changes I would include in this release. The first is patch i sent to sugar-devel. The second

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add font dpi schema

2010-06-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:49 PM, jorgesaldi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jorge Saldivar jsaldi...@paraguayeduca.org ---  data/sugar.schemas.in |   12 +++-  1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/data/sugar.schemas.in b/data/sugar.schemas.in index

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Lucian Branescu
The way I see it, activities can't really use PyGI until it's a sugar dependency. The sooner it is available as a dependency on all relevant platforms (debian being one of them), the sooner important things like Browse can start using it. So, how about making some packages for all relevant

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add font dpi schema

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Sayamindu Dasgupta's message of Fri Jun 18 18:12:31 + 2010: Note that support for reading the value of this GConf key has been added to sugar-settings-managed. Shouldn't it also be set during Sugar start-up so that it keeps working even without sugar-settings-manager? Sascha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Your thoughts on My proposed feature Revised_Browse_default-bookmarks

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Sascha: Thanks for the feedback. I met with mchua this morning on #sugar-meeting and It looks like the proposal is to just add 1 item to existing Browse start new screen for the Soas Spin only. A Crude

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Add font dpi schema

2010-06-18 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from jorgesaldivar's message of Fri Jun 18 17:19:44 + 2010: First of all, thanks for working on this! From: Jorge Saldivar jsaldi...@paraguayeduca.org --- Some more explanation about this new feature would be nice. What exactly gets changed (X server DPI setting? some font

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-Devel] Sugar Web Engine

2010-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 14:01, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: After much trouble getting hulahop xpcom to work in the abstraction layer webwrap, I've decided to drop it and focus on pywebkitgtk. To this end, yesterday I got Browse to start and load pages with pywebkitgtk,

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 18 June 2010 05:04, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: It has been mentioned that by updating these dependencies, we'll have to build some more modules in jhbuild for distros such as Debian which won't have

[Sugar-devel] [Fwd: [PATCH] Add dpi font support]

2010-06-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Oops, this was supposed to go also to the list. - Mensaje reenviado From: Jorge (jasg) Saldivar jsaldi...@paraguayeduca.org To: sayami...@laptop.org Cc: ber...@codewiz.org, Jorge Saldivar jsaldi...@paraguayeduca.org Subject: [PATCH] Add dpi font support Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] [trivial] Free From Malaria

2010-06-18 Thread Tim McNamara
Hi, Wtgn testers have notived that the Free From Malaria Activity [1] currently has gtk test as its activity name in activity.py. Here's a fix :) -Tim === modified file 'activity.py' --- activity.py 2010-06-19 00:07:52 + +++ activity.py 2010-06-19 00:09:04 + @@ -45,7 +45,7 @@

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar-Devel] Sugar Web Engine

2010-06-18 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:01:05PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: After much trouble getting hulahop xpcom to work in the abstraction layer webwrap, I've decided to drop it and focus on pywebkitgtk. To this end, yesterday I got Browse to start and load pages with pywebkitgtk, but with several