Re: [Sugar-devel] Autosave and Keep button

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:28, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 01.09.2010, at 14:01, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Tue Aug 31 20:07:12 +0200 2010: My first gut reaction (not having seen it yet) is that the Keep button is a real problem generally

[Sugar-devel] how many maintainers? (was Re: Bug tracking Vs Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:18, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 10:33 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: And we have how many full-time maintainers? We have several, no? You, erikos, alsroot... plus several part-time ones. Collabora is sponsoring me between 1

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild breakage (was Re: Bug tracking Vs Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:18, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 10:33 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: Patches were promptly made available in the mailing list and some have already been accepted by Sascha into jhbuild. Still doesn't work here, neither with

[Sugar-devel] sugar broken in F14? (was Re: Bug tracking Vs Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:18, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 10:33 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: Regardless, we proceeded to release 0.89.5 tarballs that downstreams promptly turned into broken packages (tested on Fedora). You clearly had different

Re: [Sugar-devel] how many maintainers? (was Re: Bug tracking Vs Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/02/2010 09:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:18, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 10:33 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: And we have how many full-time maintainers? We have several, no? You, erikos, alsroot... plus several part-time

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.89.5 Development (Beta) Release

2010-09-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, this is our development release number 5 in the 0.90 development cycle [1]! This is our Beta release! We would like to invite you for testing now. The plan is to have a Soas build with the latest 0.90 Sugar packages available by the end of the week. We will send another

Re: [Sugar-devel] Autosave and Keep button

2010-09-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.09.2010, at 09:27, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:28, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 01.09.2010, at 14:01, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Tue Aug 31 20:07:12 +0200 2010: My first gut reaction (not having seen it yet) is

Re: [Sugar-devel] how many maintainers? (was Re: Bug tracking Vs Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 16:18, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 10:33 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: And we have how many full-time maintainers? We have several, no? You, erikos,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [olpc-nz] Twi translation

2010-09-02 Thread David Farning
I have forwarded this to sugar-devel. Often I have seen sysamindu handle these requests on IRC. But I believe he has returned to school. david On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: On 31 August 2010 09:10, Brenda Wallace bre...@coffee.geek.nz wrote: My

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Stability stuff

2010-09-02 Thread Martin Abente
Weird, I really tried to trigger it on our last Dextrose build and never happened. The whole idea of killing activities is a little bit controversial I think, you have to assume to many things about activities, so far just a few activities in sugar uses all the proper mechanisms, I am afraid that

Re: [Sugar-devel] #2230 UNSP: Fototoon 3 does not show controls when speech bubble first selected

2010-09-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Yes. I will. Gonzalo On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org wrote: #2230: Fototoon 3 does not show controls when speech bubble first selected --+- Reporter: carrott

Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:51, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: I install orca on xo 1.0 with gnome for f11. If I config to start session with orca, runs ok. But if I execute orca from terminal, dont run correctly: Hi Esteban, could be that your email arrived to us incomplete?

[Sugar-devel] Patch review (was: Re: Community)

2010-09-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Aug 31 13:20:31 +0200 2010: What do you think about a model where we have some git repo that everyone can commit to after they got, say, at least two Reviewed-By (including one from a core / long-term developer)? The contributors would get more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch review (was: Re: Community)

2010-09-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 18:28, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Aug 31 13:20:31 +0200 2010: What do you think about a model where we have some git repo that everyone can commit to after they got, say, at least two Reviewed-By

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community

2010-09-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Martin Abente's message of Tue Aug 31 20:44:25 +0200 2010: [Organising a Sugar game session, e.g. Sauerbraten] Why not Quake?! Quake 2 coop mode was fun ;) AFAICT the Quake 2 game data is still proprietary, so not available to everyone (legally). Open Arena [1] would be an Open

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Make building GConf-dbus optional

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Compiling this module frequently breaks, resulting in difficulties for novice developers and waste of time for everyone else. This patch simply makes GConf-dbus an optional compilation unit. If there's some consensus, I could follow up with a more aggressive patch removing it althogether.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 01-09-2010 a las 23:43 +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti escribió: We agree that we should try out reviews on the mailing list, let's just do it. If Tomeu is ok with it, I'll repost some of my old patches to the list to get them reviewed and, hopefully, approved. To recap, the submission

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar broken in F14?

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 02-09-2010 a las 10:44 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: I'm testing daily the Sugar 0.90 packages that Peter (big thanks!) is doing on F14 and the tarballs that you see I'm making are intended to fix issues I find there. I'm still updating, but as of yesterday Sugar was starting

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 02 22:02:29 +0200 2010: 1) On the submitter end: git commit -s git format-patch -1 git send-email --to maintainer --cc list foo.patch Just one amendment: In case the patch closes a bug in Trac, submitter includes the ticket

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The ticket must be closed in Trac when the code its commited? Gonzalo On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 02 22:02:29 +0200 2010: 1) On the submitter end: git commit -s

[Sugar-devel] SUGAR_PROFILE feature, slimming down sugar-jhbuild (was: [PATCH] Make building GConf-dbus optional)

2010-09-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 02 19:27:59 +0200 2010: Compiling this module frequently breaks, resulting in difficulties for novice developers and waste of time for everyone else. The only reason I still haven't removed GConf-dbus is that I lack patches for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [olpc-nz] Twi translation

2010-09-02 Thread tom
On Fri, September 3, 2010 9:32 am, Brenda Wallace wrote: We have 2 volunteers coming tomorrow who are fluent in Tagalog (and a half dozen other languages) - Where do i look to find status of translations for the Philippines? Is there someone I can co-ordinate with? Where can they help most?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.09.2010, at 23:28, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 02.09.2010, at 22:46, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Bernie Innocenti's message of Thu Sep 02 22:02:29 +0200 2010: 1) On the submitter end: git commit -s git format-patch -1 git send-email --to maintainer --cc list

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Build Squeak VM 4.0.3 from tarfile

2010-09-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
This is almost the same as my patch from April, which never made it in. Instead of building from the outdated olpc subversion branch, the Squeak VM is build from a release tarball. It adds a cmake dependency, and gives an error if make is run without running autogen.sh first. Also adds a clean

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread James Cameron
Sascha Silbe wrote: Bernie wrote: 1) On the submitter end: git commit -s git format-patch -1 git send-email --to maintainer --cc list foo.patch In case the patch closes a bug in Trac, submitter includes the ticket reference in the subject. keyboard cpsection: don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch review, combining/splitting modules (was: Re: Patch review)

2010-09-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 2 Sep 2010, at 21:21, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: BTW, I've recently changed my mind on the repo-combining: We should work on splitting up our code, not combine it in a single repo. Our modules are too tightly coupled; sometimes even from foo import bar doesn't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-09-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 2 Sep 2010, at 21:02, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Let's get started this way. If needed, we could refine the rules later on. To avoid confusion, I'd wait updating the documentation in the wiki until we've tested this new workflow for a while. If a maintainer cannot stand to