Martin
Sorry, compatibility not transition.
Tony
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:21:26AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
> > Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far,
> > particularly to Sean for his well researched post on Android
> > developments.
> >
> > The choice
Hi...
If "compatibility" rather than "transition" means that Sugar would work on both
Android devices and XOs (and, hopefully lots of other platforms including the
RPi as SoaS), I see that as ideal.
One thing that keeps coming up in these discussions is the importance of
Journal. It is almost
I'm pretty new to the
mailing list and the project, but I'm pretty sure that starting a new
Chrome instance for every launched activity is far too taxing for the
XOs.
I think that Lionel's idea of using a Python activity that uses the
WebKit WebView is a much, much better solution.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:25:46AM +0800, Martin Dengler wrote:
> I bet someone (cscott?) has already investigated [porting Sugar to
> Android]
Answering myself:
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/work/download/google/gci2012/7972209?id=17001
> Martin
Martin
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:21:26AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
> Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far,
> particularly to Sean for his well researched post on Android
> developments.
>
> The choices as I understand:
> 0) Do not have an Android transition plan
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> [...] the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a
> compelling proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other
> platforms would be nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the
> heart of Sugar? The Jour
Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far, particularly
to Sean for his well researched post on Android developments.
The choices as I understand:
0) Do not have an Android transition plan
1) A suite of Activities with a common look and feel but leave things like file
mana
Oh btw I am JZA on #sugar if you want to chat about the project and
need more interactivity.
On 4/12/13, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Hi I want to contribute to sugar as a mentor, I could do some
> co-mentorship or something similar. My Google-Melange linkdID is jza
>
> Anyone needing a backup, ca
Hi I want to contribute to sugar as a mentor, I could do some
co-mentorship or something similar. My Google-Melange linkdID is jza
Anyone needing a backup, can drop me an email, and give me some
pointers to get on board with the project at hand.
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributo
+1 (in spirit to fixing challenges with Sugar as a FLOSS community)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> I've not closely followed all these discussions, so obviously I'm
> not in the best position to provide good arguments, but here is my
> gut feeling about this.
>
>
On 12 April 2013 23:18, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> Hi Lionel,
>
> we are more or less understanding each other :) I think there are really
> three possible steps
>
> 1 A WebView with an html5/javascript based sugar-toolkit
> 2 Support for web activities along with native ones, inside a native shell
On 13 April 2013 01:36, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> Hi Anish,
>
> that's interesting.
>
> First impressions from a quick look. There isn't really much documentation
> so I won't promise this is fully accurate :)
>
> Ubuntu is running in a chroot on the top of a modified android kernel.
> That's a bit
Hi Sean,
I've not closely followed all these discussions, so obviously I'm
not in the best position to provide good arguments, but here is my
gut feeling about this.
I see three challenges: put Sugar in the hands of many kids, build
a healthy FLOSS community, raise funds. The latter is just a me
Bert Freudenberg writes:
>> That is... divide the work up into doable little projects and conquer the
>> huge task of getting Sugar Activities onto Android and possibly other
>> platforms.
>
> IMHO the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a compelling
> proposition. Sure, having
Hi Anish,
that's interesting.
First impressions from a quick look. There isn't really much documentation
so I won't promise this is fully accurate :)
Ubuntu is running in a chroot on the top of a modified android kernel.
That's a bit of an hack and I wouldn't recommend it if we had to maintain
t
Hi Anuj,
I wrote a page with information about how start:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/MusicKeyboard
Gonzalo
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Anuj Pahuja wrote:
> Hi, I'm Anuj. I'm a 2nd year Computer Science undergrad student and I'm
> applyig for GSoC this year. I went through
Hi,
I have created a page with pointers to the MusicKeyboard tasks.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/MusicKeyboard
Gonzalo
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Mathilde André
wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I would like to participate in GSoc 2013 and I'm particulary interested in
> two of your proj
On 12.04.2013, at 15:39, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> O.K. So... now it is time to "divide and conquer!"
Is it?
> That is... divide the work up into doable little projects and conquer the
> huge task of getting Sugar Activities onto Android and possibly other
> platforms.
IMHO the individual activ
O.K. So... now it is time to "divide and conquer!" That is... divide the work
up into doable little projects and conquer the huge task of getting Sugar
Activities onto Android and possibly other platforms. Someone (at Sugar Labs,
logically) just needs to be in charge and coordinate the efforts t
O.K. So... now it is time to "divide and conquer!" That is... divide the work
up into doable little projects and conquer the huge task of getting Sugar
Activities onto Android and possibly other platforms. Someone (at Sugar Labs,
logically) just needs to be in charge and coordinate the efforts t
Hi Daniel, et. al.,
Do you think Ubuntu could be an (easier) option for sugar to piggyback
upon...
This is not a because-i-think-ubuntu-is-cool opinion, but testament to the
fact that canonical have been working to get ubuntu running on tablets and
smartphones.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Ins
On 12 April 2013 22:52, Sean DALY wrote:
> The initial work seems very encouraging, yet it seems Sugar Labs doesn't
> currently have the resources to make an Android offer available anytime
> soon. But: now is the time. I believe fundraising is vital to achieve this
> goal, at the very least to f
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4253
Sugar Platform:
0.98 - 0.100
Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28542/fototoon-14.xo
Release notes:
Code cleanup, many fixes,
Save the story as a PDF (Agustin Zubiaga)
Using textview for edit texts (with Agus
On 12 April 2013 23:40, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> Would it be possible to, instead of trying to port all of Sugar to
> Android, start with a few key Activities?
>
I think that's the idea. Porting the whole Sugar to Android would involve
porting a lot of system components and then likely having to m
Hi Folks...
Notes from Sunny SoCal...
Another reason to "Androidize" Sugar... whenever someone asks me (as recently
as last evening) about the XO Learning Tablet, they assume Sugar will run on
it. I have to tell them, "no, it's an Android platform, but we hope to get
Sugar running on Android de
This is Sugar bugfixing release 0.98.7. Thanks a lot to Daniel Narvaez, Martin
Abente and Gonzalo Odiard for reviewing and testing.
== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.98.7.tar.bz2
== News ==
* Release 0.98.7 (Manuel Quiñones)
* Update Sucrose ver
Hi Lionel,
we are more or less understanding each other :) I think there are really
three possible steps
1 A WebView with an html5/javascript based sugar-toolkit
2 Support for web activities along with native ones, inside a native shell
3 Fully html5 sugar
My feeling is that we should target ste
Daniel - thanks for that
cc'ing the IAEP list, since the topic of the future of Sugar is I believe
of general interest to developer and non-developer contributors alike.
Porting Sugar to Android was identified at the beginning of the year by the
Oversight Board as a strategic goal for Sugar Labs.
Hi Daniel,
Impressive idea with a cool architecture. BTW, to be honest I think its
too complex.
Why not just create a standard Python activity template that call the WebKit
WebView? Like we do today.
But maybe I miss something or maybe we dont speak of the same thing?
When I wrote t
> would be good:
>
> -create a GIT repo in git.sugarlabs.. to put the versions of the activity
and improve
> the patch/fixes..
> -update the style of bars in the activity "launcher" (at the begin)
> -upload a new version to aslo with this fixes and others fixes
Hmmm, yes its what we s
Hello,
I would like to participate in GSoc 2013 and I'm particulary interested in two
of your projects : Display notes in a score in Music Keyboard activity and
Portfolio video.
I have knowledges in Python.
Would it be possible to have some more details about them in order to choose
on
Hi, I'm Anuj. I'm a 2nd year Computer Science undergrad student and I'm
applyig for GSoC this year. I went through the org list and am really
interested in working with Sugar Labs for the Music Keyboard activities
project. Can anyone please guide me on how to get started and make progress
on this?
On 12 April 2013 12:48, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> I like the general idea.
> Question:
> This means a Chromium process should be working all time?
>
That's the case in the implementation I described.
Though I think it could be optimized to avoid that. If the shell caches the
apps info either in m
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Bastien wrote:
> Walter Bender writes:
>
> > Coming up with a decent framework which we can populate from these
> > sources would take us a long ways.
>
> Indeed. I created this repo:
> https://github.com/bzg/aslodocs
>
> I will try to populate with docs when
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 07:06:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
> It is the lack of transparency that causes people to become
> disillusioned and leave the project.
Sounds more like there aren't enough people writing code convincingly
enough for the other people writing code.
(Says the peanut gall
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> On 12 April 2013 00:17, wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> When the XO was first designed it was an open choice for operating system,
>> desktop and file manager. Some innovative choices were made to optimise the
>> experience of new young users. Some I
I like the general idea.
Question:
This means a Chromium process should be working all time?
Gonzalo
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I spent some time today thinking and experimenting with Chromium
> integration and I have a more detailed plan to propose now
> I'm not seeing any of those, if not in a few individuals, and that worries
> me. Maybe people don't care or maybe there is a lack of leadership... I
> don't know.
>
>
The community working in the platform it's just a few individuals right
now...
And the community work in a lot of different proble
On 12 April 2013 00:17, wrote:
> Hi
>
> When the XO was first designed it was an open choice for operating system,
> desktop and file manager. Some innovative choices were made to optimise the
> experience of new young users. Some I think were good, some bad.
>
> I think Android is the likely edu
Walter Bender writes:
> Coming up with a decent framework which we can populate from these
> sources would take us a long ways.
Indeed. I created this repo:
https://github.com/bzg/aslodocs
I will try to populate with docs when I find time for this.
I welcome merge requests of course, if othe
Kalpa Welivitigoda writes:
> Although the project idea says to implement a help system using
> Mallard, we can extend it, write help files in plain text and convert
> them to desired forms (Mallard, html etc) so that we can present them
> in several possible ways.
Yep, that makes sense.
--
Ba
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