Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Peter, is it possible to get 3.0 in Fedora 19 now that the issue is solved? I've seen the change in git but I don't see an rpm, not even in updates-testing. (Hopefully it's not just me being a bit clueless about Fedora...). On 1 November 2013 21:39, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
In Flavio's defense, I'd like to restructure this conversation. Undoubtedly, he's put great effort in this work. From a deployment's point of view, it's a contribution. From Gonzalo's POV, it's a burden because Flavio hasn't taken up learning to master Git. From Localizer's POV it's a burden

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 17/11/13 12:38, Sebastian Silva escribió: I spent the last month trying to get mantainers to respond to requests to update GTK2 branches with translations, with barely any response except Manuq and Gonzalo, and only the first actually took action on my request. BTW, in our latest public

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: In Flavio's defense, I'd like to restructure this conversation. Undoubtedly, he's put great effort in this work. And there are mechanisms for incorporating that work for the benefit of all. From a deployment's

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Sebastian, I think you are not understanding the problem. Of course, anybody can fork and upload another activity, but that is nightmare on the long run, to maintainers and to users. Imagine how good for users will be have different versions of the activities, some running, some not, depending

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.orgwrote: El 17/11/13 12:38, Sebastian Silva escribió: I spent the last month trying to get mantainers to respond to requests to update GTK2 branches with translations, with barely any response except Manuq and Gonzalo,

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 18:38, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.orgwrote: In Flavio's defense, I'd like to restructure this conversation. Undoubtedly, he's put great effort in this work. I suspect it's a great contribution, which is exactly why I'm mad it's not going upstream... In my

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 18:58, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: El 17/11/13 12:38, Sebastian Silva escribió: I spent the last month trying to get mantainers to respond to requests to update GTK2

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 18:58, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: El 17/11/13 12:38, Sebastian Silva escribió: I spent the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, is it possible to get 3.0 in Fedora 19 now that the issue is solved? I've seen the change in git but I don't see an rpm, not even in updates-testing. (Hopefully it's not just me being a bit clueless about

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 19:20, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Like I see it, is not a fork. Sebastian said he don't want make changes in the activities, only want add translation files, and package them in a xo file. If someone needs to package gtk2 activities, how they will know they

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 19:21, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, is it possible to get 3.0 in Fedora 19 now that the issue is solved? I've seen the change in git but I don't see an rpm, not even in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 19:21, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, is it possible to get 3.0 in Fedora 19 now that the issue is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 19:33, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise I suppose it might make sense to move sugar-build to F20 at this point, I suppose it's not horribly unstable these days... Well maybe not a great idea given Google Code-In is starting soon.

[Sugar-devel] When to switch sugar-build to Fedora 20

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, does anyone have strong opinions on when we should switch sugar-build to use Fedora 20? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule I was sort of considering to do it now, to make Write work. It should be pretty stable, especially since we don't use kernel, X server etc. As far

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 17/11/13 13:12, Daniel Narvaez escribió: I spent the last month trying to get mantainers to respond to requests to update GTK2 branches with translations, with barely any response except Manuq and Gonzalo, and only the first actually took action on my request. I think

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 17/11/13 13:20, Gonzalo Odiard escribió: Sebastian said he don't want make changes in the activities, only want add translation files, and package them in a xo file. Actually I was very specific in stating what I needed was to have updated .xo bundles in ASLO. Sebastian

Re: [Sugar-devel] When to switch sugar-build to Fedora 20

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Francis
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 07:45:08 PM Daniel Narvaez wrote: As far as I know no one is working on F19 based stuff (?). Mostly worried about Google Code-In. I suppose better to do it before or after it. This might cause regressions. I think it will be better to do it after the contest so the

Re: [Sugar-devel] When to switch sugar-build to Fedora 20

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sunday, November 17, 2013 07:45:08 PM Daniel Narvaez wrote: As far as I know no one is working on F19 based stuff (?). Mostly worried about Google Code-In. I suppose better to do it before or after it. This might

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 19:33, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise I suppose it might make sense to move sugar-build to F20 at this point, I suppose it's not horribly unstable these days... Well maybe not

Re: [Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 20:02, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.orgwrote: El 17/11/13 13:12, Daniel Narvaez escribió: I spent the last month trying to get mantainers to respond to requests to update GTK2 branches with translations, with barely any response except Manuq and Gonzalo, and

[Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and ARM and testing and feedback would be absolutely fabulous. I believe it's one of our strongest and best releases to date. Just a few minor issues to report with 0.100 on Fedora 20. Firstly the in About Computer it's still

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi Peter, On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 19:33 +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and ARM and testing and feedback would be absolutely fabulous. I believe it's one of our strongest and best releases to date. Just a few minor issues to

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi Peter, On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 19:33 +, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and ARM and testing and feedback would be absolutely fabulous. I believe it's one of our

[Sugar-devel] Jukebox, reorder capability to playlist

2013-11-17 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Hi everyone! I am thinking in add this feature to Jukebox [1], in the next days for GCI 2013, but I need some tips about how implementing it (design). Some time ago I did some similar for Chart [2], with two simple arrow buttons [3] that work with the selected item. But in Jukebox, when you

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 20:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and ARM and testing and feedback would be absolutely fabulous. I believe it's one of our strongest and best releases to date. Awesome! Just a few

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 21:52, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I made a patches to hide those. I submitted the sugar part for review Argh, sent accidentally... I submitted the sugar part for review https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/125 I will push the (trivial) sugar-runner part

Re: [Sugar-devel] Write fails to launch

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 20:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 19:33, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise I suppose it might make sense to move sugar-build to F20 at this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin

2013-11-17 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 06:52:26AM -0800, Alan Aguiar wrote: I was seeing this wiki entry: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ ProtoSnap_Contributors_Guide I have contributed there. And see that it uses Arduino plugin. I'm mantaining this plugin for TurtleBlocks (AKA TurtleArt) and the version showed

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 20:28 +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi Peter, On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 19:33 +, Peter Robinson wrote: Secondly, a minor annoyance with sugar-runner is that the shutdown and reboot options in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 17 November 2013 23:13, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 20:28 +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi Peter, On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 19:33 +, Peter Robinson wrote: Secondly, a minor annoyance

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 23:21 +0100, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi, I'm not sure to understand your concern. We default to true, so keep the same behavior. sugar-runner will set the environment variables to no disabling the items only for sugar-runner and not when running from gdm. Can you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jukebox, reorder capability to playlist

2013-11-17 Thread Daniel Francis
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 06:34:49 PM Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez wrote: So, what can I do? Use double-click to play the track and implement that feature like in Chart, or do something like drag and drop (I think it isn't a good idea)? I want you opinions :) Sugar was one of the first

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jukebox, reorder capability to playlist

2013-11-17 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Yes, that's true...It will look strange but is better than double-click. Thank you Daniel, aguz 2013/11/17 Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org On Sunday, November 17, 2013 06:34:49 PM Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez wrote: So, what can I do? Use double-click to play the track and implement that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin

2013-11-17 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:49:41 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: alan...@gmail.com CC: unleashk...@googlegroups.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 06:52:26AM -0800, Alan Aguiar wrote: I was seeing this wiki

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] ProtoSnap with Arduino plugin

2013-11-17 Thread James Cameron
Alan Aguiar wrote: James Cameron wrote: Alan Aguiar wrote: I was seeing this wiki entry: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ ProtoSnap_Contributors_Guide I have contributed there. And see that it uses Arduino plugin. I'm mantaining this plugin for TurtleBlocks (AKA TurtleArt) and the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jukebox, reorder capability to playlist

2013-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
+1 In theory, reorder in the treeview could be enabled and drag drop should work. Gonzalo On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Yes, that's true...It will look strange but is better than double-click. Thank you Daniel, aguz 2013/11/17

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 20:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and ARM and testing and feedback would be absolutely fabulous. I believe it's

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2013 20:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a reminder that SoaS v10 beta [1] is out for both x86 and