functionality.
Bill Bogstad
Here's the excerpt:
The lack of good dependency reporting and version tracking for
Activities makes this difficult. Something like XO bundles could
work better for for some scenarios though.
For example, has anyone ever done anything with the 'host_version'
field
in the list of resource you know you have available to solve
your problem.
Thanks,
Bill Bogstad
P.S. I'm cc'ing this note to s...@lists.sugarlabs.org as it clearly is
about SoaS Strawberry and has literally nothing to
do with Sugar development. It's a more generic 'my machine won't
boot Linux' problem
as was suggested on the wiki minutes?
Thanks,
Bill Bogstad
P.S. We have already started organizing ourselves based on the
minutes. We will conduct any public discussions in the
s...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing list with a subject line tagged with
[DP]. Individuals not on the panel who want
to support.
Tomeu's CentOS suggestion is more plausible to me.
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to be a lot more common. In fact,
given how many releases there have been for the
XO and other Sugar delivery methods; I suspect that any meeting of
this type will not be all the same base system.
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) that SoaS is storing on
a USB stick. If you were thinking of something else, please let me
know.
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think this is valuable.
If I get some time to actually do something about it, I'll let you know.
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really require the latest
version of everything (as defined by the latest Fedora) in order to
function correctly?
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then this conversation is probably premature.
If it's less then that, then it's just about the right time
to decide if long term support is something that matters to SugarLabs
and how to address it if it does.
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longer then a year can be found. On the chance
that this isn't the case and to provide
what educators (seem) to want requires a switch, let's leave the door
open for change.
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 01:51, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote:
Could be, perhaps we should hear first about real world scenarios on
which this could be useful? Maybe on a school with computer labs all
with the same
lists are created, it would require no work on the part of
mailing list subscribers. It's is a bit hack so we'll see if Bernie
and company decides it's feasible.
Finally, please consider all of the above for the sake of my overloaded brain.
Thanks,
Bill Bogstad
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Martin Dengler
mar...@martindengler.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:39:08PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote:
This note is only tangentially a response to Peter Robinson's...
Here's my thought process...
[meta: it's hard to know to what email are you replying
willing to test new images, file bug reports, help
with triaging, etc.
I have an XO-1 and clearly too much time on my hands. My kids also
have two XO-1s as well, but I don't really want to touch
their computers until there is some stability.
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with
differing opinions might be a better choice. (Community members who
haven't expressed an opinion are important as well.)
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real confusing
for spectators if everyone on the team picks their favorite and so
does everyone on the opposing team as well. It may not even matter
which color (definition of SoaS) we pick, but it does
matter if people pick different ones.
Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote:
My wish is to figure out ways that SoaS can take advantage of the hard
drive while still remaining a portable environment. Hmm... Hey, here
? I can probably come up with a half
dozen other
possible use cases. Clarify your desires/use cases and maybe someone
(maybe even me) will
spend some time on it.
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like (of course I'm biased).
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of users? Given the above, I conclude that
SoaS really needs to be something that SugarLabs supports. That
doesn't mean that Sugar should be tied to SoaS, just that it really is
a fundamental
part of changing education.
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Douglas McClendon
d...@filteredperception.org wrote:
Bill Bogstad wrote:
[swapping on hard disk with SoaS
Anybody want to code/script this up?
does /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys (search for swapon) in f11/soas not already do
just that?
I just checked both F11
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Douglas McClendon
dmc.su...@filteredperception.org wrote:
Bill Bogstad wrote:
...
I also don't think we can leave Sugar LiveUSB to any distribution.
My impression is that both LiveCD and LiveUSB Linux distributions are
essentially gimmicks for all of them.
I
of SoaS
(breaks 1-1 assumption).
I realize that many of the above assertions are not what some (most?)
deployments want to hear. I'm not sure I like
them either. I just want some clarity.
Looking forward to a SoaS mailing list,
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messages on the topics that are relevant to them.
Upon rereading Walter's note, I guess you need this for IAEP as well.
While we are at it, can we get [GPA] topics as well, since we can't
have a GPA mailing list.
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it makes much sense to expect
much in the way of support for older Sugar versions
unless the problems are particularly bad. It would be better if a
'real' Sugar developer could respond to this. I just do SoaS...
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configured the image
that way since
I didn't think it would hurt in the use cases I was considering.
Change it, it's easy...
Good Luck,
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com wrote:
Do these look good enough to go for?
-- Forwarded message --
From: Ellen Kranzer ccr...@panix.com
Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:09 AM
Subject: Fwd: [ST] PC giveaway
To: caroliner...@alum.mit.edu
and
ISO filename?
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and efficient.
Thanks for the info. I was hoping there was something other then
rawrite.exe, but I hadn't researched it.
Take care,
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Caroline Meeks
carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:
For the teachers, I am trying out Launchpad as our place to communicate
between teachers and community. I don't want to over load them with either
all of our discusisons, IAEP or Sugar Devel. Its my theory that
this bug as it's not a Sugar bug. It's a
Linux distribution problem
i.e. a SoaS bug. I'll open a new bug at Launchpad for the problem.
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bug. I'll add a
comment to the original bug
instead...
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as well as boring
numbers. We'll just have both (like Ubuntu does).
Thanks for your attention,
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On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote:
and to make things even more confusing we will be using a custom spin for
GPA that has the backup code and more drivers installed! Ham is working on
the latest version tonight and will have a fresh iso for us to
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Caroline Meekscme...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if it works with VMWare.
A distinct possibility based on the following from:
http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/releasenotes_ws5.html
.
USB enhancements provide support for a new class of devices,
for this inconsistency so it can
be dealt with correctly in a later release.
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. I'll try to upload my most
recent test image this evening and post where it is...
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) USB stack, if you have
an unusual USB card the driver might not be there. This will probably
show up as the USB stick
never showing up when you hit the 'D' key instead of ENTER.
Since this is SoaS related, please report bugs at:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/soas
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of how XOs/Sugar find
things has really been thought through as well as it should.
It feels very brittle to me.
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of an activity session.
Please change the default text to something that calls attention to
itself. Write Activity or whatever comes up is not going to
encourage exploration. It looks like a fixed label rather then
something someone can (and probably should) change.
Bill Bogstad
is that the latest releases 3.0+ of VB might work
better. Given that this is a known
problem with VirtualBox, there is no point in doing anything within
SoaS without testing the absolute
latest VB release.
Natively booted MacBooks under SoaS is a different story.
Bill Bogstad
/viewtopic.php?f=8t=18695
which seems to indicate that the VB developers are thinking about
doing something about fixing their USB code to support USB based
cameras, but there was nothing there as of June of this year.
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shouldn't matter
for this.
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. Collaboration is
known to have some bugs.
Is there a (hopefully straightforward) way to determine if a known bug
is causing the problem?
Trac entries to check for symptoms? Things to look for in packet
dumps? Logfile entries to examine? etc...
Bill Bogstad
the
journal to some portable media (maybe USB stick).
Is that a fair summary?
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