Re: [Sugar-devel] [Physics] egg libraries sorted -- Journal JSON saving addition, then release?

2009-08-10 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Brian, On 10 Aug 2009, at 04:31, Brian Jordan wrote: Hi all, I manually included pkg_resources.py from setuptools so that pythons 2.6.x would still be supported using the .egg libraries. Then released and included new Elements (0.13) which is Asaf's JSON changes. Fab thanks :-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] multiple activity versions installed simultaneously (was Re: [Bugs] #1042 UNSP: cannot install new activity version)

2009-08-10 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/10 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: Learner-generated activity patches, perhaps? Like, we're under a tree and here's my patched Terminal/Pippy/Speak that you may want to try but not commit to blowing-away your official

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Physics] Rollerball

2009-08-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 9 Aug 2009, at 00:44, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Hi, I just committed a new version of the Physics activity that has the roll tool. Of course we need a better name for the tool. It wouldn't bother me to remove the motor tool now. The behavior of a pinned rolling body is similar enough.

Re: [Sugar-devel] One click vs options in palette buttons (from the toolbar redesign thread)

2009-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Simon, On 6 Aug 2009, at 11:59, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 07/31/2009 12:50 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: Another question that came up today (screenshot attached): The share button has a regular palette. This is not a toolbar that can be locked. We have one action buttons (e.g. keep

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Benjamin, On 6 Aug 2009, at 19:28, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: To engineers: Is sharing an activity a sufficient indication of intent from the user to execute a potentially dangerous action, such as sharing Terminal on a public collaboration server? To activate a remote VNC client in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Activities] Issues Clock Maze Measure Physiscs

2009-08-05 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Andrés, Thanks for the feedback. On 5 Aug 2009, at 21:11, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: *Clock (Some times you can not see the clock):* */usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Aug 2009, at 03:16, Gary C Martin wrote: The palette, on the other hand, doesn't work as you've mocked it up. The primary palette is a fixed height, and only supports single line primary and secondary titles. I think the tags/description belong in the secondary palette instead. See

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 5 Aug 2009, at 01:53, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: I still kind of like likes as the prompt, but something more general like profile could also work. I think Facebook's solution is very elegant here. Their status messages are simply prepended with your name,

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tags

2009-08-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 2 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi Gary (and others), what was decided about buddy tagging? No one else has commented yet :-( Were you interested in working on it? Yes, I've just added some new mock-ups (keeping them as simple/ achievable as possible), so maybe someone else

Re: [Sugar-devel] Erase in the Ring and less hot hot corners

2009-08-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:26, Caroline Meeks wrote: +1 to taking erase out of the activity ring. We need to keep that view as simple as possible for the youngest children. Moving the mouse is a challenge for the youngest kids, fewer targets with less that can go wrong is a big win. Filed:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Art, On 4 Aug 2009, at 02:42, Art Hunkins wrote: At: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/39 I found the following observation: I think that the right solution for such a tiny display is to globally scale the display, using the bin/sugar to set SUGAR_SCALING to 72. The question is, how

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down, but it's been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack TurtleArt with a temporary toolbar imitation and get some real usability input from kids, but not sure we have the time? We

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down, but it's been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack TurtleArt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Group view proposals (was: Assessment in Karma)

2009-07-31 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Christopher, On 30 Jul 2009, at 05:56, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 29 Jul 2009, at 06:40, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: As previously mentioned by Bryan in his Automated Assessment is the Killer App blog

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-30 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Eben, On 31 Jul 2009, at 01:18, Eben Eliason wrote: Here are the icons we used for the view, edit, and color toolbars, Sugarized of course. If anyone has suggestions for other common toolbars across activities that deserve icons in artwork, let me know. Eben Share with: is one, unless

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-07-28

2009-07-29 Thread Gary C Martin
On 29 Jul 2009, at 02:07, Martin Sevior wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ===Sugar Digest=== snip Here is where the trouble began. First of all, the version of Turtle Art I used to build the game is newer than the version they had

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-29 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Simon, On 29 Jul 2009, at 08:55, Simon Schampijer wrote: FWIW: Picking the top level tool set is going to be a real tough call in a number of cases as we loose toolbar space for each extra tab, plus the activity icon on far left (essential for Activity recognition), plus the stop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

2009-07-29 Thread Gary C Martin
On 29 Jul 2009, at 06:40, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: As previously mentioned by Bryan in his Automated Assessment is the Killer App blog post (http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/assessment-is-the-killer-app/ ) student assessment is an important component of Karma. While

Re: [Sugar-devel] buddy tagging

2009-07-29 Thread Gary C Martin
On 29 Jul 2009, at 11:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: have added a tags property to buddies but it will work only for Jabber connections for now. In order to make it work for Salut, quite a bit of work would be needed in the connection manager. Things get a bit more complex because telepathy-salut

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-28 Thread Gary C Martin
On 28 Jul 2009, at 12:40, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 07/28/2009 02:51 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Simon, On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 07/18/2009 04:17 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Caroline, On 17 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Caroline Meeks wrote: We can put it in front

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-28 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Asaf, On 28 Jul 2009, at 02:41, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Great! For now, we will just be unzipping the elements / box2d .egg libraries into lib/ (until we figure out how to include setuptools from within an activity). Will commit this within the next few days. Could you put the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-28 Thread Gary C Martin
On 28 Jul 2009, at 19:03, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/28/2009 03:48 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/18/2009 04:17 AM, Gary C Martin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Improving Reading Experience

2009-07-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 Jul 2009, at 15:29, Jim Simmons wrote: Caroline and Bastien, What might work to show how many books are available is to do a search on the word boy and another on the word girl, then maybe oz and jules verne. Any one of these should return lots of titles. You might also try lincoln

[Sugar-devel] [Marketing] SL at NECC 2010

2009-07-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 Jul 2009, at 17:15, Mel Chua wrote: * I don't know what big developments are likely to hit in the near future, but if the use Activities online, in browsers! thing works, then we have a *huge* winner to demo. Just wanted to ping on this item. I don't see Activities online, in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Duplication of Effort: Don't do it.

2009-07-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 Jul 2009, at 18:38, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have lately seen a lot of duplication of effort in Sugar. I think this is bad. The success of Sugar demands discipline and careful planning from its developers. In particular, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 17:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:24:33PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 05:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:53:33AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: The term content bundles is still pretty wooly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
On 26 Jul 2009, at 20:16, Eben Eliason wrote: I've always envisioned a Bundle activity which is a glorified tar/zip/other-bundle-format viewing and creation tool. With Bundle, it would be possible to open any such file in the Journal (including activity bundles, of course) to view its

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why am I so popular?

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
On 26 Jul 2009, at 21:43, Bastien wrote: Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com writes: 1). Bastien's Read Etexts video became an Internet sensation. Hey, he did a nice job! My video has been viewed only 10 times so far, so you can drop this interpretation :) So how do you know those 10 times

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to delete Platform field from ASLO

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
On 24 Jul 2009, at 06:31, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, At the present moment 99% of all activities use All platform. I think we could use only Sugar Platform field. In case of activities like Measure(which has XO specific code and works only on XO) we can mark all these activities as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Buddy Tagging (Was: GPA Goals Status)

2009-07-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Eben, On 25 Jul 2009, at 03:01, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 21 Jul 2009, at 23:51, Caroline Meeks wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Greg, On 21 Jul 2009, at 14

Re: [Sugar-devel] Buddy Tagging (Was: GPA Goals Status)

2009-07-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, On 25 Jul 2009, at 11:12, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Eben, Gary, can you summarize your thoughts on this proposal? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tagging_Proposal Do you think it's worth implementing as-is? Do you think we should instead tackle first real groups? Or maybe the tagging

Re: [Sugar-devel] New activity Graph

2009-07-24 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Xenofon, Hey looking good :-) One quick bit of UI feedback from watching the movie. The behaviour of your tabs is quite different to the rest of the current Sugar design. In Sugar the top tabs switch to different toolbars across the top of the screen with the main canvas staying the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, On 24 Jul 2009, at 15:21, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, I was thinking myself that enhancing Get Internet Archive Books to deal with local zip files of books as well as the Internet would be a possible approach. Currently GIAB produces and can be resumed from a Journal entry but does

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Eben, On 25 Jul 2009, at 02:24, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read To: Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com Cc: Sugar devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, OLPC Bookreader list bookrea...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 37e66200-fa85-4d24-aa3e-9e2a3a520

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Sayamindu, On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:02, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: ..snip snip Hmmm. The down side of this is that you end up with 1 Journal zip bundle holding a large number of books... So, I resume this zip

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers. Yes, book cover images, is the big missing feature with current Journal abilities when accessing external media (along with a Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 18:28, Gary C Martin wrote: Just wondering. If I had a USB stick with 2,000 pdf, plain text, etext, djvu, epub etc files on it... if they are at least reasonably well titled file names (lets say at least title, author), then a child can: 1). pop in the USB stick 2). goto

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 22:56, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, If it wasn't clear (because I started this discussion with Scotty elsewhere) my idea was to put the ebooks, cover images, and Dublin core catalog in a Zip file, then make an Activity that could read that Zip file, generate a GUI catalog as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Sayamindu, On 22 Jul 2009, at 14:43, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Please check out http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/helpfr/repos/sayamindus-clone and see if it works for you. If it works, we can probably merge this clone into mainline. Just tested here on sugar-jhbuild (0.85.1) and it's

[Sugar-devel] Buddy Tagging (Was: GPA Goals Status)

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 21 Jul 2009, at 23:51, Caroline Meeks wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Greg, On 21 Jul 2009, at 14:51, Greg Smith wrote: I may also add a feature to share a file from one computer to another. I want to see a lesson plan needing

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Greg, On 22 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Greg Smith wrote: That brings up the question of how they can tag the items they want to easily find them later. That is, as they look around on Wikipedia or elsewhere and find text and images they want to use, how do we collect them and show them (and only

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 Jul 2009, at 20:09, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I posted the full notes here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy#Class_notes Three high level points: - Kids have no trouble finding new

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 Jul 2009, at 22:06, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, While looking at the existing Library Bundle mechanism, I was wondering if it would be possible to bypass the Browser altogether and launch the catalog inside Read itself (for library bundles that have ebooks in them). If we use a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bastian, On 21 Jul 2009, at 15:39, Bastien wrote: Hi Sayamindu, thans in advance for your help. The original Help activity repo is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/help The derived Helpfr activity is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/helpfr They both rely on the same

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Goals Status

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:24, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:15, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Have you tried using the Send to -- friend Journal feature? Obviously you need local collaboration working first, and added some friends:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bastien] helpfr.xo does not launch on F11 on XO-1

2009-07-21 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bastien, On 21 Jul 2009, at 21:02, Bastien wrote: thanks for the warnings. Are the Help/Helpfr activities the only two instances of such compatibility issue with 0.82 and 0.84 hulahop versions? If not, what are the other decisions that have been made? There was at least one other break

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-20 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Asaf, On 20 Jul 2009, at 06:16, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Hi, Thanks for the feedback. The save/load functionality is ready and I'll be committing soon to elements. :-) Brian: What is the status of the library handling? I'll have to update elements after I commit to enable the new

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [support-gang] An Opportunity to bring vital content to the Sugar/XO world - Needs technical help.

2009-07-19 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, On 19 Jul 2009, at 18:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: :-( triple damn and blast... I used a (recent) flash de-compiler to convert the .SWF into a v7 .FLA. I can access all the project/code/media, but the levels still didn't progress (though I could always get through the exit).

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [support-gang] An Opportunity to bring vital content to the Sugar/XO world - Needs technical help.

2009-07-19 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Jul 2009, at 19:05, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 20:01, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: I've been trying to test your gnash gtk+ widget and the eatboom project in current sugar-jhbuild but failing at an early hurdle :-) Any hints as to how to get the

[Sugar-devel] Gnash gtk+ widget support

2009-07-19 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, Given that gnash, with the correct gtk+ python support, is not going to be here officially until F12 (November), does that make your gnash gtk+ work as something more reasonable to push*** for in the Sugar 0.88 time-scale? Hmmm, I guess that's actually more a distro question, if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Jul 2009, at 03:32, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Asaf, Brian, On 15 Jul 2009, at 00:27, Gary C Martin wrote: On 13 Jul 2009, at 05:46, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Friday is only good for me if we do it around 3pm GMT. Brian: is 3pm GMT good for you? #sugar-meeting is free by my

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Groupthink Update: SharedTextDemo-4

2009-07-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Jul 2009, at 16:36, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Gary C Martin wrote: I just want to raise a note of interest. I've been pondering future possibilities for collaboration in Physics: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Physics Still early days for making a call, but Asaf has

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Jul 2009, at 22:30, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Hi, In order to make the UI more friendly y suggest removing hidden features of the joint tool that allow you to add pins because I think it is unexpected behavior. Yes, I almost removed the right click to pin hidden feature when I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Jul 2009, at 10:11, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:48:10AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 04:43, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 03:11:15AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 17 Jul 2009, at 02:21, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-17 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, On 17 Jul 2009, at 09:52, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Here are my image mock-ups for Write. All tabs are swapped out as is, for toolbar buttons. With no need to move existing tab content features about:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-17 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Caroline, On 17 Jul 2009, at 23:35, Caroline Meeks wrote: Ack! I posted this to the wrong thread! Sorry :( Here are some ideas for use cases that we might want to think through. Off the top of my head • Teacher shares a file with a class • Teacher shares a file or lesson

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-17 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Caroline, On 17 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Caroline Meeks wrote: We can put it in front of actual kids once you get a sample working. We could even try playing the video for our existing classes. I don't know if they'll be able to give you feedback from just seeing the video. Might be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Jul 2009, at 15:49, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 03:42:57PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 17 Jul 2009, at 10:11, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:48:10AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 04:43, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-16 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Jul 2009, at 02:21, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:03:15PM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:17:13AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, One of lacks that sugar environment

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-16 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Asaf, Brian, On 15 Jul 2009, at 00:27, Gary C Martin wrote: On 13 Jul 2009, at 05:46, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: Friday is only good for me if we do it around 3pm GMT. Brian: is 3pm GMT good for you? #sugar-meeting is free by my calculations UK==16:00, US/Eastern==11:00. I'll

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request to add webkitgtk as a external dependency

2009-07-15 Thread Gary C Martin
On 15 Jul 2009, at 14:22, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/7/14 Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com: Hi, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 06:10:12PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Since the version of pywebkitgtk

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-15 Thread Gary C Martin
On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:07, Lucian Branescu wrote: Here it is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac#How_do_I_create_a_text_box_for_code_editing.3F Thanks Lucian, I've been watching this thread from the sidelines. I for one would LOVE the current 'view source' view to become an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity (Was: Release v3 tonight?)

2009-07-14 Thread Gary C Martin
On 13 Jul 2009, at 05:46, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: On 13 Jul 2009, at 03:11, Gary C Martin wrote: Think we need to make a call on the stability of the new Physics Journal state format first, or at least make sure everyone knows the storage format may (or may not) be stable long term

[Sugar-devel] Unstable 0.85.1 reporting/feedback policy

2009-07-14 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi, Just wanted to check on the etiquette regarding reporting issues with unstable release 0.85.1 and on. Would you like lots of new tickets assigned to 'Git as of bug date' (there's no formal mention of 0.85), some IRC chats, email chatter, or a wiki page? :-) If there's a wiki that

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA School Visit report for Tuesday July 14

2009-07-14 Thread Gary C Martin
On 14 Jul 2009, at 21:35, Greg Smith wrote: I also spent 1/2 hour debugging collaboration. Dave and Gary helped on IRC. They pointed me a tool called Analyze (can someone put that on the main activities page ASAP? I didn't write down the URL and will need to fetch it again tomorrow). Done,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA School Visit report for Tuesday July 14

2009-07-14 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Martin, On 15 Jul 2009, at 02:33, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: As Greg said we finally got collaboration working! The problem was that we had cloned the owner.key and owner.key.pub. The fix was to delete

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-13 Thread Gary C Martin
On 13 Jul 2009, at 19:48, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:16, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:14:33AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 01:29:08PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:42:19AM +0200, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-13 Thread Gary C Martin
On 13 Jul 2009, at 21:01, Gary C Martin wrote: On 13 Jul 2009, at 19:48, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:16, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:14:33AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 01:29:08PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:12, Simon Schampijer wrote: for reference: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/ New_Toolbar_Design eben's mockups: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars I had a brief look at the code. Looks like a great start and proof of concept. What I think

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jul 2009, at 14:42, Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Jul 2009, at 10:12, Simon Schampijer wrote: for reference: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/ New_Toolbar_Design eben's mockups: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars I had a brief look at the code. Looks like

Re: [Sugar-devel] Nobody understands Keep

2009-07-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jul 2009, at 19:15, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 05:41, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:45 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:52:23AM +0100,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-10 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Aleksey, On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:19, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/toolbars there is simle example in examples/toolbar.py Does it satisfy mockups? Sugar-jhbuild is broken for me just now so can't look/test :-( Is this toolbar example

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-09 Thread Gary C Martin
Sorry, this was meant to go to the list no just Caroline. Begin forwarded message: From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Date: 9 July 2009 15:54:34 BST To: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS On 9 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Caroline Meeks

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 9 Jul 2009, at 00:13, Caroline Meeks wrote: Specifically for the GPA We have 18 computers. Wired to the internet, we don't know the details. We are trying to bring in another computer, install the XS for it and put it beside the existing computers. For this summer we would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 9 Jul 2009, at 01:20, Walter Bender wrote: My laptop (jhbuild) and Classmate (running the same Strawberry version of SoaS) both connected to the jabber server and were stable on the same network as the other machines. Well that's good news I guess :-) Is the SoaS for your Classmate on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Background Screen Color for SoaS Activity

2009-07-07 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Art, On 7 Jul 2009, at 03:46, Art Hunkins wrote: Tomeu, I've had no luck modifying background color for anything except buttons. No boxes, even when the box is completely empty. Does anyone know how to change the color of the entire screen, or of a box? I can remember hitting my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-06 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Eben, On 5 Jul 2009, at 23:52, Gary C Martin wrote: On 4 Jul 2009, at 04:19, Eben Eliason wrote: I'll throw this idea back out there for fun, too. I don't know if there's a way to do even this without adding too much complexity, but we did make some mockups of an advanced sort bar, which

[Sugar-devel] Read Activity question (single page view)

2009-07-05 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Sayamindu, Saw some of your Read roadmap items today, and just wanted to ping and ask how viable you think it would be for Read to support a single page by page view for PDFs (rather than current continuous scrolling mode)? I've been thinking it would be better for memory consumption

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-05 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 04:19, Eben Eliason wrote: I'll throw this idea back out there for fun, too. I don't know if there's a way to do even this without adding too much complexity, but we did make some mockups of an advanced sort bar, which instead of sorting on columns allowed creation of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-05 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, On 3 Jul 2009, at 19:29, James Zaki wrote: Perhaps this is a late reply, (I am yet to read the last 6 or so digests of to 20+ that were in my inbox) No not late at all! :-) But I am always sensitive of little incremental additions that seem like it would be useful. I always

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-05 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:36, Eben Eliason wrote: That said, I'm actually thinking that the tag dropdown should be an extension of the search field itself. Perhaps it's just to the right, and only needs to be a little down arrow that reveals the tags (or perhaps we even modify the search entry to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 10:08, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 20:29, James Zakijames.z...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this is a late reply, (I am yet to read the last 6 or so digests of to 20+ that were in my inbox) But I am always sensitive of little incremental additions that seem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 09:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 05:19, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: It sounds like you're describing a NOT filter (eg. kind:text NOT activity:terminal), though, which the current UI doesn't support, as all of the filter options are combined with an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 16:29, Gary C Martin wrote: P.S. Should have another round of updates to the mock-ups later today. OK, that's the next revision update of mock-up images with comments – still more to add (When/Who), but the toolbars at least show icons for the main potential top-level

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide possibility to mark objects that can be shared(I guess sharing all local objects by default is not a nice idea). Right. This would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Aleksey, On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:25, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:29:47AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had, early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do still, images are intended to help

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:53, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * additional types of filters for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects * user tags * object traits(additional columns from previous section) like author,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 06:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:06:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * additional types of filters for example Library has[2] several

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Aleksey was keen to see any Journal mock-up work in progress I had, early as possible, so here's where I'm at :-) There's plenty to do still, images are intended to help

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 18:29, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide possibility

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to create a project on SugarLabs gitorious?

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Bastien, H, I might well be confused here, but looking at gitiorus I see no helpfr project for you to push to: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/helpfr You need to login, click Projects in the top right, then New project in the left, and create your project. Once created, if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Get Internet Archive Books Activity source code

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, On 4 Jul 2009, at 01:25, Jim Simmons wrote: Version 2 of Get Internet Archive Books was released this morning. I like this one a lot better than my first effort; it should be good enough to use, not just criticize. I have put the source code tar.bz on shell.sugarlabs.org in

Re: [Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam meeting on Friday June 26th - 17:00 UTC

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 05:12, S Page wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:04 PM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe. Stand back, what the heck is Activities/All for? I marked the page obsolete and nobody has disagreed. ... Someone disagreed quite enthusiastically the other day.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:13, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Devils advocate here, so just because someone was late to the realtime party, they don't get to download an otherwise openly published piece of work that could be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:18, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 1 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 18:14, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: - Showing tags under the title would be great (Tomeu, I will help where I can) Hope to push my work on the journal treeview soon, then you can take it and do whatever

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-30 Thread Gary C Martin
On 30 Jun 2009, at 00:32, Michael Stone wrote: -- big snip from old thread --- - Better Anything toolbar filter palette (use a grid layout to minimise scrolling) How do you think http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars would work out here? An 'Anything' filter button

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo -- preserving a downloaded filename?

2009-06-30 Thread Gary C Martin
On 30 Jun 2009, at 18:20, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/30/2009 07:17 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Using Browse.xo v101 on 8.2.x I cannot get Browse.xo to save a file with the name that I am requesting. Browse.xo seems to take the name I hint from the server (from the URL and using an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Gary C Martin
On 29 Jun 2009, at 16:07, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 16:55, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal entry. It would be a great help if we

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