Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v3 "how did we do?" release review meeting

2010-06-09 Thread Mel Chua
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mel Chua wrote: >> How did the Mirabelle release cycle go? We're gearing up for making >> v4, and want to know what went well and what could have been better - >> everything from technical to deployment to documentation to process &g

[Sugar-devel] Heads-up: POSSE folks hacking in Fedora/Sugar this week and next

2010-06-09 Thread Mel Chua
Some of you may have noticed some new faces in #sugar - we (Walter Bender, Peter Robinson, and I) are hanging out with a group of professors (mostly from the Worcester area) who are in town this week for http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE, a workshop for learning how to get their stu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v3 "how did we do?" release review meeting

2010-05-30 Thread Mel Chua
Reminder: This meeting is tomorrow! (Or depending on your timezone, today.) Monday, May 31, 1900 UTC in #sugar-meeting. Send notes and comments if you can't make it, but we hope to see you there! --Mel On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mel Chua wrote: > How did the Mirabelle release

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v3 "how did we do?" release review meeting

2010-05-28 Thread Mel Chua
How did the Mirabelle release cycle go? We're gearing up for making v4, and want to know what went well and what could have been better - everything from technical to deployment to documentation to process sustainability to... well, really, everything! Our next weekly meeting (Monday May 31, 1900

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] [IAEP] Really cool developments with SoaS v3

2010-05-28 Thread Mel Chua
Dave, Gerald - I started a stub for drafting a spec for this, and linked to this thread so that it's easy to pull in links from James and others (thanks for kickstarting this!)* http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Kickstart_generator (I couldn't come up with a better name...) I also linked to this from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Updated Open Office.ods Spreadsheet of tested Compatible Activities with a Soas Mirabelle 509 USB

2010-05-28 Thread Mel Chua
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 20:59 -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: >>> Link: >>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Activities-Index-Mirabell.ods >> >> The work you're doing is amazing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS-3: Final Activity List - Attention needed!

2010-05-04 Thread Mel Chua
Regarding inclusion of the Get (Internet Archive) Books Activity - while the goals of including this Activity are admirable, it simply isn't going to happen for v.3.0 due to the timing of deadlines beyond our control. Let's take a look at why, and see what we can learn from this in terms of process

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS 3 Activity list

2010-03-29 Thread Mel Chua
> So the original proposal was the following list of Activities: > - browse > - physics > - turtleart > - irc > - log > - terminal > > I'm proposing adding the following: > - Record > - Write > - Chat. > - Some sort of shareable game such as memorize > > The reason for the above 4 is that they are

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS change in engineering direction: activity questions

2010-03-29 Thread Mel Chua
> What is the criteria for selecting the minimal set ? Is there a > process to review and modify the minimal set for upcoming releases > (ie. is this the frozen/final list) ? As a minimal set ensures that > these activities are necessarily translated/localized, is there a > means to mark them appro

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-23 Thread Mel Chua
Thanks for the update, Sean! The mailing list is up - details on the conversation are posted at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick#Make_a_SoaS_mailing_list. In short: people talked, consensus was reached, stuff happened. We're getting better at this - and are close to finishing the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-23 Thread Mel Chua
> The mailing list in question is for developers... on the specific > existing project. Googling "Sugar on a Stick" will find (as it finds > today) the Sugar Labs website and the download page. I interpreted the mailing list in question as being primarily for developers of *any* SoaS, with the cur

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-23 Thread Mel Chua
>> Sebastien's original question[2] is unanswered perhaps because it's >> been deemed maybe-already-answered[3] or "peripheral" > > To the contrary, it seems to me that it remains unanswered only > because it has been deemed a very important question, one worth formal > consideration by a decision

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-21 Thread Mel Chua
Ok - then the situation is this, then: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ASugar_on_a_Stick&diff=37874&oldid=37820 It looks like "the SoaS team" is unblocked - now all that remains is for "the SoaS team members" to identify themselves (I'd suggest just requesting and joining a separat

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-20 Thread Mel Chua
There's a lot going on in this thread, so here is my attempt to summarize discussions so far. If I've missed or misstated anything, my apologies - and it's a wiki, so go fix it. ;-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick By my count, there are 4 things we need to decide on and then ex

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-20 Thread Mel Chua
> I can understand why a teacher may not be interested in this discussion. > Still, the debate is also very relevant. It's about how we're going to > address your aunt's concerns. The debate is definitely very relevant, and I'm glad we're having it. > Think of it this way: nobody wants to know ho

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-17 Thread Mel Chua
I read the multiple "future of SoaS" discussions on this mailing list and... to be honest, I was frustrated and didn't quite know how to respond. So I called my aunt Lynne May (I stay with her family when I'm in Boston). She's been a teacher for over 15 years. She teaches first grade. (I've been s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2, Issue 37

2009-03-27 Thread Mel Chua
Moving to sugar-devel. Brian Long wrote: > all, > > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM? > > -Brian Long > bbl5...@rit.edu > > On 3/26/09, fourthgrademath-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org > wrote: >> Send FourthGradeMath mailing list submissions to >> fourthgradem...@lists.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] teacher recruitment letter

2009-03-25 Thread Mel Chua
ext message: [math4] teacher recruitment letter > * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > On Tuesday 17 March 2009 10:14:51 am Mel Chua wrote: >> In case it helps, here is the email I'm using to ask for edu folk. It is >> mostly copypast

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Gsoc] SWF Sugar

2009-03-24 Thread Mel Chua
Moving thread to sugar-devel. Jameson Quinn wrote: > Questions like that are best sent to sugar-devel, this list is just for > gsoc administrative/operational questions. > > To answer: the idea is to make hooks so you can save to journal, do > collaboration, and easily set up a sugar-like UI, f

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google summer of Code?

2009-03-13 Thread Mel Chua
> 2009/3/8 Jameson Quinn : > > No definite agreement has been made, but in preliminary chats, it seems > > that both organizations agree that anything for XS or specific to XO > hardware > > should go in OLPC, and everything else (general Sugar improvements, > > frameworks, or activities) should go

[Sugar-devel] GSoC application about to be sent in: last call for checks

2009-03-11 Thread Mel Chua
We're going to be submitting our organization's GSoC application in ~24 hours, so this is a last call for edits and sanity checks. Many thanks to Jameson and Walter for their constant reminders and for writing and editing our org app! http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/SL_application --Mel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 has begun!

2009-03-09 Thread Mel Chua
Thanks, Rafael! Thanks to Walter and Jameson, we have the draft of an organization app up (including what our student app will look like). Please take a look at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/SL_application, improve it if you can see a way to make things better, and comment/discuss on this

[Sugar-devel] Sugar now has smoke test procedures.

2009-02-21 Thread Mel Chua
Because of the impending 0.84 release and the need to have a simple answer to the question "does build X work?" Colin, Elsa, and I came up with http://sugarlabs.org/go/Smoke_test. It is meant to be a <20min "does this build work?" test for developers. It can also be used to verify that your new

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Testing Sugar 0.84, Monday 2/23 and Tuesday 2/24

2009-02-19 Thread Mel Chua
+1 Tuesday, and I'll do my best to stop by in between meetings on Monday morning. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > We're getting close to release of 0.84, and we can still use some focused > testing. > > Testing is a lot more fun, and effective, when you do it with

Re: [Sugar-devel] XOIRC migrated to Sugar Labs (as IRC Activity)

2009-02-18 Thread Mel Chua
Rockin'. I'll port over the bugs. Simon Schampijer wrote: > Mel Chua wrote: >> The IRC activity (XoIRC) has been moved to the Sugar Labs >> infrastructure. If Eduardo is ok with it, I'll be maintaining it here >> unless someone else would like to pick it up.

Re: [Sugar-devel] XOIRC migrated to Sugar Labs (as IRC Activity)

2009-02-17 Thread Mel Chua
to the new template. --Mel S Page wrote: > Mel Chua wrote: >> The IRC activity (XoIRC) has been moved to the Sugar Labs infrastructure. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XoIRC still points to laptop.org for bundle, > source, POT. Several other migrated activities likewise have incorr

[Sugar-devel] XOIRC migrated to Sugar Labs (as IRC Activity)

2009-02-17 Thread Mel Chua
The IRC activity (XoIRC) has been moved to the Sugar Labs infrastructure. If Eduardo is ok with it, I'll be maintaining it here unless someone else would like to pick it up. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/irc http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4029 Wade, as the ActivityTeam coordi

Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.mozilla.org - what needs to be done?

2009-02-06 Thread Mel Chua
For Mick (who is coordinating Remora-fu): As promised, I took a pass through the page and updated it today with all I've heard and seen. In particular: instructions on what needs to be done / how to fix things if you break them are on http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Remora_port, along wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.mozilla.org - what needs to be done?

2009-01-29 Thread Mel Chua
Ok, I think Tomeu and I caught up tonight and I'm ready to keep pushing this forward, so... *tinkers with http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Remora_port* Time for the questions. 1. There are a few instances of remora running on sunjammer. Which one is the one under active development/test? (

[Sugar-devel] addons.mozilla.org - what needs to be done?

2009-01-26 Thread Mel Chua
(ccing the dev list at Wade's request) Hiya, Tomeu - Wade said I should ask you what infrastructure work needs to be done to get addons.mozilla.org up and running. Could you point me towards logins/servers/existing work/trac tickets and help me get started? This afternoon was the first I'd hea

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

2009-01-12 Thread Mel Chua
> What scope of software projects is SL interested in mentoring this year? See http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code, which (afaik) reflects the current state of plans. > I am concerned that this program may make the typical first-year > mistake of treating SoC like an opportunity to get free c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

2009-01-09 Thread Mel Chua
That depends on what OLPC's GSoC focus is - it may *not* be Sugar at all, in which case the organizational intern allocations should be (and they should be, anyway!) independent of each other. Marcin, do you recall where you heard/saw that rule? Googling for things like "gsoc limit of 2 student

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

2009-01-08 Thread Mel Chua
It is not necessarily the case, and in fact I'd be surprised if it were - SJ's been doing GSoC for OLPC for the past few years afaik, and I don't see any reason for that not to continue this year, but this is 100% speculation. Ccing SJ so he can confirm one way or the other if he has a breather

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2009 is a go!

2009-01-08 Thread Mel Chua
Excellent. Sometime next week I'll start stepping up the "Sugar Labs does Summer of Code" stuff once more, and get in touch with Leslie - thanks for the ping! Here's our current gameplan: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code (It started as a Marketing Team project, but is now under Development,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs QA MINUTES (Wednesday December 10 2008 - 16.30 (UTC))

2008-12-11 Thread Mel Chua
I put the agenda and the log and Simon's notes here. http://sugarlabs.org/go/TestingTeam/Meetings/Agendas/2008-12-10 http://sugarlabs.org/go/TestingTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-12-10 Cheers, --Mel Simon Schampijer wrote: > logs: http://meeting.laptop.org/sugar-meeting.log.20081210_1206.html _

Re: [Sugar-devel] Summer of Code

2008-12-08 Thread Mel Chua
ts? If you need help on anything else from > developers please let me know! > > Marco > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Mel Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Greg and I had a good talk today, and wound up with >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code - please che