Re: [Sugar-devel] #2141 UNSP: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame.

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 02:57, Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org wrote: #2141: Memory and CPU status indicator for the frame. --+-    Reporter:  m_anish                    |          Owner:  tomeu        

Re: [Sugar-devel] New dependency on gnome-keyring-daemon (was: Re: [RELEASE] sugar-0.89.5)

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 09:11, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:58, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Fri Aug 27 12:21:19 +0200 2010: * Launch gnome-keyring-daemon from sugar-emulator This means I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 21:01, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: (I had overlooked this message) El Sun, 01-08-2010 a las 16:47 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: - several (most?) FOSS projects track patches in a bug tracker and seem to thrive in contributions. Maybe they are wrong

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracking Vs Patch review

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 14:44, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 21:01, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: (I had overlooked this message) El Sun, 01-08-2010 a las 16:47 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: - several (most?) FOSS projects track patches in a bug

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.89.6

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.89.6.tar.bz2 == News == * AP: signal strength update not seperate from state change #2246 * Listen to changes to the nick and jabber server settings and update MC appropriately

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration protocol in 0.90 (was: Re: [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.89.5)

2010-08-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 20:06, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Mon Aug 30 19:44:28 +0200 2010: * Read the public and private keys lazily (Tomeu Vizoso) What about the key type change we (Tomeu and I) talked about a few months

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.89.5

2010-08-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.89.5.tar.bz2 == Changes == * Launch gnome-keyring-daemon from sugar-emulator ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.90.1

2010-08-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 19:00, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:18:32PM -0400, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: This release is only made because a 0.90.0 was made before 0.88.1. So with this, the latest released code has the highest version number, although unfortunately

Re: [Sugar-devel] running sugar in jhbuild

2010-08-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 07:31, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote: I continue to have trouble getting jhbuild to run.  I hope the community can help me with installation best practices so that all new developers can easily contribute. For developing activities, I recommend getting a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [laptop-accessibility] Fwd: screenreader for sugar

2010-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
to accessibil...@lists.laptop.org Forwarded conversation Subject: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:16 AM To: sugar-devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Hi, is there any interest

Re: [Sugar-devel] running sugar in jhbuild

2010-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 16:28, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/25/2010 04:25 PM, Erik Blankinship wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.dewrote: On 08/24/2010 03:08 PM, Erik Blankinship wrote: Tomeu, thanks for looking into this. Is a

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.89.4

2010-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.89.4.tar.bz2 == News == * 3G Support: show connection errors #1759 * Unneeded debug logs #1862 * Activity data directory should be deleted when an activity is deleted #2074 * Sudden death while clicking around on

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.89.1

2010-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.89.1.tar.bz2 == Changes == * Remove connection handling now that the Shell takes care of it. Also make sure we have all the info we need right after the service starts.

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.90.1

2010-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
This release is only made because a 0.90.0 was made before 0.88.1. So with this, the latest released code has the highest version number, although unfortunately we have an unstable release with an even number. Sorry for the confusion, time will fix it somewhat. == Source ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] running sugar in jhbuild

2010-08-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 05:01, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote: I setup a fedora 13 box tonight (nice, very easy!) and installed jhbuild (also easy!).  However, when I run sugar and launch the calculate activity, I get this error in my console (and calculate never launches):

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: Journal Sort

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 01:24, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Implement sorting in the Journal UI. Also adds support for the two new properties (filesize and ctime). Feature page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Sort Hi, is there anything we could have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: Journal Sort

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 01:24, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Implement sorting in the Journal UI. Also adds support for the two new properties (filesize and ctime). Feature page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Sort Implementations:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 18:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Thu Aug 05 09:04:44 +0200 2010: The problem with this is that often the owner is not around when needed. If gitorious doesn't have more sofisticated rights management

Re: [Sugar-devel] Core modules (was: Re: Adding committers on gitorious)

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 18:27, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Fri Aug 06 01:20:27 +0200 2010: There are too many core modules, in my opinion (and Michael Stone's).  I see no good reason why there isn't just one git repository

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Pippy: Add edit toolbar

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 19:05, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.com wrote: This patch adds the standard edit toolbar to the Pippy layout. If the activity is not shared, all four toolbar buttons, i.e. copy, paste, undo, redo will be visible. However, if an activity is shared, the undo and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-artwork] Remove unused CFLAGS and LIBS

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 02:04, ma...@marcopg.org wrote: From: Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org ---  configure.ac |    5 -  1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac index 3ade698..f92776d 100644 --- a/configure.ac +++

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: Journal Sort

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 18:08, Andrés Ambrois andresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, August 23, 2010 04:25:48 am Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 01:24, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Implement sorting in the Journal UI. Also adds support for the two new

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: Journal Sort

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 19:09, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 04:48:33PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:08:30PM -0300, Andrés Ambrois wrote: On Monday, August 23, 2010 04:25:48 am Tomeu Vizoso wrote: - creation time will be always

[Sugar-devel] recent jhbuild breakage

2010-08-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, as several people have noticed, updating jhbuild will result in sugar not starting up. Attached to http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2228 can be found a patch that adds these dependencies to jhbuild, any testing and commentaries will be appreciated. Thanks, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] code submitted for review should have been tested

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 20:52, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Because of this specific commit, file transfers have been broken since early this year and it's obvious that this code wasn't tested at all: http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Class vs. Exec activity.info

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
API will evolve). Regards, Tomeu Justin Lewis http://jlewopensource.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 17:38, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 17 August 2010 09:30, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: sorry

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Use GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, for which module is this patch? Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:24, ma...@marcopg.org wrote: From: Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org It's consistent with the rest of core modules and should give us better compiler flags (plus options to tweak them). ---  configure.ac

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself senior developer?

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 22:00, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: This thread has made me wistful.  I go to a conference every year called No Fluff Just Stuff.  The guy who runs it has the title Meme Wrangler.  I've had several different titles at my day job, every one more dismal than

[Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used I cannot really test. Regards, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:48, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Also, note that sticking to the current dependencies won't allow us to keep jhbuild lean because we'd have to build old stuff for distros

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feature Freeze exception request: spiral extension to Home View feature

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 15:28, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I am requesting an exception to Feature Freeze. I just completed what I hope to be the final clean up of the spiral extension to the Home View. The ticket is here: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2143 The patch is

Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard navigation? I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could be used

Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar

2010-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html there are people interested. You can contact Esteban Arias also http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html Gonzalo On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:53

[Sugar-devel] accessibility and favorites view

2010-08-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I'm looking at what would take to make Sugar as accessible as GNOME is and the biggest roadblock by far that I have found are the views based on HippoCanvas. Have been playing with using custom GtkContainer subclasses and things seem to work but once I looked into removing hippo from the

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-08-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 19:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Fri Jun 18 16:08:34 + 2010: Fair points, but these are all Debian's problems, in my opinion. It falls into the We're innovating, can you keep up? camp. No, they're

Re: [Sugar-devel] depending on introspection

2010-08-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 19:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Daniel Drake's message of Fri Jun 18 16:08:34 + 2010: Fair points, but these are all Debian's problems, in my opinion

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why automated testing and dogfooding is crucial (was: Re: code submitted for review should have been tested)

2010-08-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:54, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed Aug 11 12:22:00 +0200 2010: any code contributor is expecting that their patches will be tested by the reviewer? A contributor should test their code to the best

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enabling logging by default

2010-08-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 21:19, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: Hi, I was looking at Sugar on Ubuntu, and we were considering enabling logging (in ~/.sugar/debug) by default. Is there any reason not to do this, when targeting machines that aren't resource constrained like the XO? Would

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Remove Presence Service

2010-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 23:33, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: I don't have enough time for a very detailed review and I don't really know telepathy, but here a few comments. Mostly nitpicks, it looks great in general. +        BuddyIcon.__init__(self,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Class vs. Exec activity.info

2010-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 17:38, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 17 August 2010 09:30, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: sorry for the confusion. I was quite confident that those fields were not in use anymore :/ I reverted the commit and added a warning that is printed when

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service-0.90.0

2010-08-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, there are no changes in this release, it is made just to bump the release version number. == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.90.0.tar.bz2 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-base-0.90.0

2010-08-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, there are no changes in this release, it is made just to bump the release version number. == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.90.0.tar.bz2 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

[Sugar-devel] utouch 1.0

2010-08-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, a bunch of updates on the work that Canonical has been doing about multitouch support: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-release-uTouch-1-0-multi-touch-for-Ubuntu-10-10-1059801.html http://voices.canonical.com/chase.douglas/2010/08/16/multitouch-gestures-project/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch for documentation of graphics/animator.py

2010-08-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 18:02, su...@dev.seeta.in wrote: Hello all, I've made some changes to the docstrings in graphics/animator.py for its documentation and have uploaded the HTML generated using sphinx at: http://seeta.in/sugar/api/documentation/desttemp/html2/animator.html You can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Control Panel

2010-08-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 18:36, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM,  u...@dev.seeta.in wrote: Hi, I was working on making some changes in sugar control panel in Ubuntu ,such that it should not require any restart even when very small change is made. So, can

Re: [Sugar-devel] #2105 UNSP: add a screensaver to Sugar

2010-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 21:10, Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org wrote: #2105: add a screensaver to Sugar --+-    Reporter:  walter                     |          Owner:  tomeu        Type:  enhancement      

[Sugar-devel] added 'untriaged' component to trac

2010-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
And set it as the default, so they stop going to the sugar component. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Remove Presence Service

2010-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 17:26, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hi, have just entered a new feature page for the removal of the Presence Service, which is being proposed as a feature for 0.90. In the page you have links to previous discussions and to the bigger plans. http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Add Sugar Ad-hoc networks

2010-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:33, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, have just entered a new feature page for the Sugar Ad-hhoc networks, which is being proposed as a feature for 0.90. The Feature will add three default Ad-hoc networks, for channel 1, 6 and 11. They will be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove bitmap icon handling from s-p-s

2010-08-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:14, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:02:26AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: The idea is that the PS is going to disappear soon. Do we really want to make such cleanups given that? I don't think unimplemented future plans are an acceptable

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2010/8/11 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: We used to do that, the problem is that we don't control our platform as Google controls Android and you need to make sure that resources that need to be specific of each child process aren't shared (dbus and X connections, etc). I'm personally more

[Sugar-devel] mapping activity with OpenStreetMaps

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, one more excellent thing coming from NZ: http://nzjrs.github.com/osm-gps-map/ Anybody up for doing an activity that uses it? Should be a matter of placing the widget inside the canvas and connecting some buttons to call some methods on it. Regards, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse-115 stops when pop-up tab closes

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 06:39, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:24:43AM +, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: cairo-1.8.8-1.fc11.i586 [...] Traceback (most recent call last): [...]   File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/activity.py, line 600, in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove bitmap icon handling from s-p-s

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 00:38, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: This patch gets rid of some almost-dead code in sugar-presence-service for handling bitmap avatars. The idea is that the PS is going to disappear soon. Do we really want to make such cleanups given that? Regards, Tomeu

[Sugar-devel] code submitted for review should have been tested

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, any code contributor is expecting that their patches will be tested by the reviewer? If that is the case, we should make more clear in the review process that patches should have been tested _before_ they are submitted for acceptance. Because of this specific commit, file transfers have been

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarbot working on latest Sugar

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 17:17, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tim McNamara's message of Sun Aug 08 02:06:21 +0200 2010: Is there interest in pushing an updated sugarbot to git.sl.o? Sure, go ahead! If you need commit rights, please write to systems@ and

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Remove Presence Service

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have just entered a new feature page for the removal of the Presence Service, which is being proposed as a feature for 0.90. In the page you have links to previous discussions and to the bigger plans. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Remove_Presence_Service Regards, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove bitmap icon handling from s-p-s

2010-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 13:28, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 00:38, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: This patch gets rid of some almost-dead code in sugar-presence-service

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 02:20, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On 6 Aug 2010, at 13:35, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I was just throwing in the idea here. I will bother you further only once I have a realistic plan in mind (and confidence in the ability to execute

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 07:19, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:05:24AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 01:47, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On 6 Aug 2010, at 00:20, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 05, 2010

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 15:47, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 August 2010 14:44, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Sugar has a similar mechanism. From the Low-level Activity API docs: org.laptop.Activity.SetActive(b: active) Activate or passivate an activity. This is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 22:08, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 18:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: So we would have a periodic wakeup? The test would be the amount of free

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 15:15, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I tihnk I have been sloppy with my words, so let me clarify two things: - killing processes should be done only to avoid OOM (because

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, the GNOME people are having an interesting discussion about AMO. Regards, Tomeu -- Forwarded message -- From: Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 15:28 Subject: Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org To: Jose Aliste jose.ali...@gmail.com Cc: Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 17:42, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Can't we just _close it nicely_? When you are about to get into OOM? Early on so we avoid OOM for most cases. Right now our OOM use cases

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 18:11, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tomeu, in general, I think we are saying the same thing :-) My impression as well. With one exception -- OOM happens because memory is allocated. Sugar-shell cannot (and I say should not) try to arbitrage in

Re: [Sugar-devel] MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 18:11, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: [cc += sugar-devel, tch] El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 11:27 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: Btw, have read that some notifications about available memory have landed in cgroups in recent kernels. The Sugar shell could listen

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 19:31, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 18:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: So we would have a periodic wakeup? The test would be the amount of free memory plus buffers and caches? A polled design is clearly inferior to a proper

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 19:33, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 19:31, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 18:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: So we would have a periodic wakeup? The test would be the amount of free memory plus

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 01:47, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On 6 Aug 2010, at 00:20, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:06:03AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Another option is having some script that adds committers to all sugar core modules in one

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:51, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Yeah, I think we need to look into merging core in a single repository. At the end it's basically the same problem we find again and again: we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 21:41, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed Aug 04 20:03:50 +0200 2010: Don't have permissions to push to sugar-tools, gitorious should grow a better way to add committers. erikos (owner of both the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding committers on gitorious (was: Re: [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing)

2010-08-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 09:04, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 21:41, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Wed Aug 04 20:03:50 +0200 2010: Don't have permissions to push to sugar-tools, gitorious should

Re: [Sugar-devel] CIA bot disabled

2010-08-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: Hi, have disabled again the CIA bot because it's reporting old commits when people merge. Please only activate it once uninteresting commits are filtered out. Disabled it again because was sending multiple times

[Sugar-devel] gadget extension to ejabberd

2010-08-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, is anybody aware of any production usage of gadget? We are considering removing the client code from telepathy-gabble. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read and evince issues in F-14 (again!)

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:12, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems somehow that Read is the one with all the bad luck at the moment... It currently broken in F-14 and rawhide due to the gnome-python2 evince bindings being disabled as it doesn't look like at the moment

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read and evince issues in F-14 (again!)

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 13:35, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:12, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems somehow that Read is the one with all the bad luck

[Sugar-devel] Important notice for committers

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
As the code review process documents, please reference the ticket number in the commit message that your commit fixes/implements so we can easily relate the information we have scattered around when using git-blame. I will start rejecting patches from now that don't have the appropriate commit

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.89.2

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.89.2.tar.bz2 == News == * sugar-control-panel -l gives non-fatal error #2106 (fran) * Trying to register to XS while offline produces in no user visible errors #2062 (Tim McNamara) * Only show mesh device icon

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Don't have permissions to push to sugar-tools, gitorious should grow a better way to add committers. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Remove nbsp chars from the html string before parsing

2010-08-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
--- release |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/release b/release index d601ff9..52116b0 100755 --- a/release +++ b/release @@ -94,6 +94,9 @@ class ReleaseReport(object): writer = formatter.DumbWriter(out) form =

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to copy something from the Journal to a pendrive?

2010-08-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 22:06, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 17:54, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Gary

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home view activities layout

2010-08-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:39, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:32:34PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Christian,   Hi Chris--to address scalability we have a list view from which  

Re: [Sugar-devel] update on the collaboration refactoring

2010-08-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:11, Marco Pesenti Gritti ma...@marcopg.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu.viz...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Activities using the sugar.presence API in sugar-toolkit should require no changes Is the long term plan to deprecate sugar.presence

Re: [Sugar-devel] Putting stuff in the control panel vs. the frame

2010-08-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 17:51, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, looking at some of ParaguayEduca's latest builds I saw that they have added some new icons / features to the frame (e.g. CPU / memory consumption, accessibility, touchpad-mode, etc.) I talked to

[Sugar-devel] avoiding OOM

2010-08-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have just come across this piece of documentation about how to get notified when a certain threshold of memory usage has been reached: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt;h=eac22d3b#l477 I don't know since what kernel

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to copy something from the Journal to a pendrive?

2010-08-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 17:54, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 Aug 2010, at 06:07, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Tomeu

[Sugar-devel] update on the collaboration refactoring

2010-08-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, have just updated the page were I've been tracking my work on the collaboration infrastructure. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Collaboration_Refactoring For this release the main change is the removal of the Presence Service API in favor of directly using the Telepathy

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] Datastore index corruption!

2010-08-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 19:36, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 07:11 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Is it in Rarian or in the datastore code itelf? How do we change it to a sane 2-3 seconds delay? imo, initiating ds flush (or regualr ds shutdown), and thus setting

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] sl#2132: reduce _FLUSH_TIMEOUT to 5 seconds

2010-08-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 19:56, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: This drastically reduces the chance of data loss in the journal on crash or power failure. The previous timeout was set to 60 seconds. It is not clear how much time flushing the journal takes on an XO-1. Until we

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Restart

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 02:30, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 16 July 2010 16:50, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Fri, 16-07-2010 a las 15:33 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió: There was a discussion on sugar-devel before that ticket was opened, the changes had support from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Restart

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:42, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 07:50:09PM -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I asked in the ticket and on irc. The whole truth appears to be: some users bitched about it, better not argue with them. That's local customisation then.  We

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:27, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, We are working on customizing Pharo Smalltalk to turn it as a development platform to develop Sugar activities.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar-toolkit has been branched

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:33, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 06-07-2010 a las 09:27 +0200, Simon Schampijer escribió: sugar-toolkit has now a sucrose-0.88 [1] branch for backporting fixes intended for future releases in the 0.88.x series. Who is going to maintain the 0.88

Re: [Sugar-devel] Work on API-documentation of sugar.

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 18:36, Kandarp Kaushik kand...@seeta.in wrote: Hello all, I, along with other seeta team members, am working on documenting sugar. We'll be starting with the presence service module and our work can be reviewed at api.sugarlabs.org/sphinx. The documentation involves

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora 14 / SoaS 4 changed heads up

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 00:21, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I thought I'd send a message to give people a heads up to the changes that are going into Fedora 14 that might have an impact on sugar. So the major changes are... in no particular order: -  gnome 3 and

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-datastore component in trac

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 00:48, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:40:09AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: So my proposal is: consolidate all information on the MAINTAINERS file and prominently mark the wiki page as obsolete. I agree with this proposal.  It follows

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.19

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 21:28, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:18:59PM -0400, d...@laptop.org wrote: == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.19.tar.bz2 Great. Please remember to tag the release and push that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu

2010-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made

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