[Sugar-devel] Tablet support

2011-03-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi all, Chris Marshall, Ping Cheng (of Wacom) and myself have started work on a project to add graphics tablet (such as Wacom Bamboo) to Sugar. Our goal is to submit patches over the next six months adding a wacom driver, a control panel extension, and activity support to Sugar. We're

Re: [Sugar-devel] Colors! Activity status

2010-12-26 Thread Wade Brainerd
.  I'm not surprised at that, just hoping Merry Christmas, Chris On 12/25/2010 9:21 AM, chm wrote: On 12/23/2010 6:41 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Yikes, can you tell me what isn't there?   ...   Just to check, does your version have a Help button in the toolbar?   That would indicate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Colors! Activity status

2010-12-23 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Chris, On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:13 PM, chm devel.chm...@gmail.com wrote: I've built a wacom tablet kernel driver for 10.1.3beta and have been able to run Colors! with a Wacom Bamboo Fun tablet. This was the first time since leaving os802 on the XO-1. Yippee! Wonderful! I wonder if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wacom Bamboo with Colors! on XO-1 (again)?

2010-12-20 Thread Wade Brainerd
installation complete! Please restart your XO. On 12/17/2010 10:26 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hey Chris, Two things are going wrong: 1) You need internet connectivity to run that script. It downloads the kernel module from dev.laptop.org http://dev.laptop.org. 2) The script referenced

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wacom Bamboo with Colors! on XO-1 (again)?

2010-12-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. FATAL: Module wacom not found. Wacom installation complete! Please restart your XO. On 12/6/2010 5:16 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hey Chris, I just saw this email. Can you tell me what the error message you got was? I haven't installed os852 on my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wacom Bamboo with Colors! on XO-1 (again)?

2010-12-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Chris, I just saw this email. Can you tell me what the error message you got was? I haven't installed os852 on my XO-1 but I might be able to diagnose it by the error message. Thanks, Wade On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, chm devel.chm...@gmail.com wrote: I've been delighted to see the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Analysis help needed re: sugargame (pygame) on the 1.0XO (build 802)

2010-06-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi George, Thanks! I'll take a look at it this weekend to see if I can find a workaround for the missing API. Wade On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:02 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wade, Thanks for your offer. I've

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugargame v1.1

2010-06-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
== Sugargame == Sugargame is a Python package which allows [http://www.pygame.org/ Pygame] programs to run well under Sugar. It is fork of the olcpgames framework, which is no longer maintained. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Sugargame http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugargame

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Analysis help needed re: sugargame (pygame) on the 1.0XO (build 802)

2010-06-25 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi George, Can you send me a copy of your activity? I'll try it out on my XO (also running 802) and see what's wrong. Thanks, Wade On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:20:05 -0400 Subject:

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to start the Browse activity from my own activity?

2010-02-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:55 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:59:12AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 23:30, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I've just tested; one can open Wikipedia activity, type google.com into the location text

Re: [Sugar-devel] Development

2010-01-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 03:42:14PM -0500, Francis Xavier Fitzpatrick wrote: I was just curious as to what set up you all use to develop applications on Sugar? I use Gentoo sugar overlay which has useful feature, USE

[Sugar-devel] Deployments on the wiki

2010-01-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
I've started pinging deployments about this; any help will be greatly appreciated. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 01/18/2010 12:11 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote: On 01/17

Re: [Sugar-devel] Development

2010-01-22 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Francis, I currently develop activities using sugar-jhbuild running under Fedora 11, inside a VirtualBox VM on an iMac. I use Eclipse + PyDev for the actual coding. When developing on XO, I use Komodo Edit with the Remote Drive Tree extension to edit files directly on the XO over ssh. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Low-level Activity API

2010-01-20 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Bert, Thanks for doing this! Once place you can link it from is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Resources. Best, Wade On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Hi folks, I just moved the documentation for how to write Sugar Activities in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: In yesterday's design meeting [1] we discussed this issue. The outcome was the following (full logs can be found at [2]): Hi Simon, Good job proving me wrong and achieving a reasonable consensus :) I support the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing Start new ring and separate row of icons for resume

2010-01-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 01/17/2010 11:05 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: I think we ought to have a Template and structure for deployments, along the lines of the Feature wiki pages [1].  Then we could ask each deployment to create new pages

Re: [Sugar-devel] FileShare Activity 7

2010-01-16 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Justin, I've been meaning to check out this activity for awhile. It looks great! And I am starting to believe in enabling more functionality like this through activities rather than adding them into the shell. Things seem to happen a lot faster that way at least! I downloaded v7 from ASLO

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have sugar native toolbas for GCompris in sugar environment. So, instead of coding them in plain C, new project was initiated to port sugar-toolkit to

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS 2 problems

2010-01-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi David, Did you try adding 'selinux=0' to the kernel boot parameters? SoaS Blueberry expects selinux to be disabled, so it sounds like the image you're using was created incorrectly. 1. When first booting, press a key when it prompts you to. 2. You should see a 'GNU GRUB' screen. Press the e

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
My feeling regarding all this is that the problem is deeper than finding a way to Resume Latest or Start New from the home screen. IMO, the whole idea of Resume Latest is broken and needs to be ditched. The Journal is the place to resume activities. We need to make the Journal more discoverable

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, While packagin GCompris-9 for sugar, it was decided to have

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Toolkit in Vala

2010-01-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
n Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Gerald Ardito gma...@gmail.com wrote: Wade, You said: if only we could put every Sugar developer at a deployment for a week. I am a teacher and doctoral student managing a deployment of 150 XOs/SOAS and would love to have this happen! Hi Gerald, Can I find

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
-environment: (student-)developers at our university + teacher students + teachers at Austrian schools. Walther PS: preliminary homepage www.ist.tugraz.at/projects/isac/rp Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: All mentioned above could

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

2010-01-07 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: All mentioned above could be(already) done in existed env. But the major idea of collab.sl.o proposal is bringing life to existed scheme by stimulating users to share their needs(due to having convenient ASLO for needs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Several chapters of Make Your Own Sugar Activities! ready for review, feedback

2010-01-07 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Jim, Just wanted to say, this looks awesome! I love the overall writing style, the scattered pearls of wisdom and bits of humor, and the extensive use of screenshots. I'll try to provide some more detailed comments soon. Great work! -Wade On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jim Simmons

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Services

2010-01-07 Thread Wade Brainerd
Happy New Year! Can we bundle some 0install sources (blobs) in the .xo file? Like, for Colors! could I bundle the {py25,py26}_{x86,x64} 0install sources in the .xo file and specify a local path when starting up? Thus, remote 0install is only invoked in a less common scenario, where the user is

Re: [Sugar-devel] g.sl.o issues for Karma and perhaps other activities

2010-01-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
on g.sl.o only takes a minute or so. -Wade On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 03:50, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like the ideal conditions for Git

Re: [Sugar-devel] malformed OurMusic bundle

2010-01-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
What editor do you use to edit source code? I do lots of development on Windows too, but haven't had this problem. -Wade On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Mikus suggested the following to me (re: my OurMusic activities and Windows line-endings): -

Re: [Sugar-devel] g.sl.o issues for Karma and perhaps other activities

2010-01-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
This sounds like the ideal conditions for Git. Just set up a server at your office using any Git related software you want, like Gitorious or even GitWeb. Developers set their projects up on your local server, and when they reach some level of stability they create public repositories on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Meeting Minutes 31/12/2009

2010-01-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Sebastian, I'm concerned that you guys are planning to require activity authors to package their activities in Fedora, in order to see them shipped in SoaS. Is this the case? Currently SoaS pulls a predefined list of activities from ASLO. I think requiring Fedora packaging would be too much

Re: [Sugar-devel] Religious/Spiritual Text

2009-12-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Art, Personally, I would find it appropriate and sufficient if you added a note about the religious content to the OurMusic and OurMusicMC activity descriptions at activities.sugarlabs.org. I was one of the ones who (privately) flagged your activities as a possible issue for SugarLabs, and I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-14 Thread Wade Brainerd
+1 overall. The one thing that jumps out to me here is the idea that I could download frame components from ASLO, like a Clock or a Calendar. That sounds fantastic. I also like that activities such as Chat could install frame components, and have a proper notification system. A great addition

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Looks good ... though I haven't actually reviewed the patches. I hope you've thought about what will happen if people report problems that are part of the underlying software stack ... or even hardware. It does bundle a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:07:45PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Looks good ... though I haven't actually reviewed the patches. I hope you've thought

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:07:45PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:23 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Looks good

Re: [Sugar-devel] File Share Activity

2009-12-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
+1 from me too, for all of Gary's reasons. Looking forward to checking the activity out. -Wade On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Justin, On 12 Dec 2009, at 16:17, Justin Lewis wrote: I am not the author of Bundle.  If people would like to test

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise

[Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
. The control panel uploads system information and logs, along with the user's description of the problem. == Owner == * Name: Wade Brainerd * Email: wad...@gmail.com == Current status == * Targeted release: 0.88 * Last updated: October 16th, 2009 * Percentage of completion: 90% == Detailed

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.84 maintenance

2009-12-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: I think this is a current policy of the activity team? The word policy seems a little official, but yes, I'd certainly not want one of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
+1 from me for this feature proposal! Both the under-the-hood and user experience simplifications are clear improvements. I would like to see this as a step towards removing the activity list view, which starts to become redundant once activities can be uninstalled from the Journal. I disagree

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: No, but perhaps we could take this opportunity to reduce this problem... When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we ought to display an alert

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
A problem with introducing dotted version numbers is that Sugar versions 0.82-0.86 parse the activity version field using the Python int() function. a = int('100.3') Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '100.3' If

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancement suggestion - Maze

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
I love the faces! Joshua, what do you think about Gary's change? -Wade On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Nov 2009, at 09:15, Tim McNamara wrote: Something I would like feedback on. After several sessions playing Maze with 6 year

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:23:22PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Anecdote: My XO ran out of space over Thanksgiving and automatically deleted Browse at boot time.  I downloaded the latest version, but it failed to launch

[Sugar-devel] Backwards compatible Browse

2009-11-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
I cloned Browse v114 and spent a few hours hacking on backwards compatibility. I added compatibility fallbacks for the toolbars and a few other modules. The repository is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/browse/repos/backwards-compatibility On OLPC build 8.2.0, the patched Browse v114

Re: [Sugar-devel] .swf files visualization and bundling

2009-11-24 Thread Wade Brainerd
:)) Great work Wade!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rafael, Check out http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/eatboom/repos/wadebs-clone.  That project provides a template for making .SWF files into proper Sugar activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] .swf files visualization and bundling

2009-11-22 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Rafael, Check out http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/eatboom/repos/wadebs-clone. That project provides a template for making .SWF files into proper Sugar activities. The bundle is also available on ASLO here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4225 EatBoom is pretty

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sharing in Terminal

2009-11-22 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Sayamindu, This sounds great to me! It was on my TODO list when I added tabs, but I never got around to attempting it. I too like the idea of shared tabs. The way I would do the UI is: When the Terminal activity is shared (either the Share toolbar button has been clicked, or the activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #1447 NORM: Display a message when an activity fails to start

2009-11-21 Thread Wade Brainerd
Screencast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSLhWEKchVE I agree that the new terminology is weird. My original version said Blah failed to start. and the button said Close. That made a bit more sense to me since Stop implies that something *has* started. -Wade On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM,

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sugargame v1.0

2009-11-21 Thread Wade Brainerd
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Sugargame == Sugargame == Sugargame is a Python package which allows [http://www.pygame.org/ Pygame] programs to run well under Sugar. It is fork of the olcpgames framework, which is no longer maintained. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugargame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [NEW FEATURE] write to the journal whenever you want

2009-11-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
Looks like a nice improvement to me. But, per thread from a few weeks ago, I think the Keep vs Stop concept needs attention and this feature should probably become a part of whatever solution we reach for that difficult problem. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Eduardo H. Silva

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking feedback on sketch of a new color selector

2009-11-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
I like it, especially the version with arrows instead of undo. The best part for me is that it allows you to go backwards, if you decide you liked an earlier color better. -Wade On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I just posted another version (no

Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] slides to help a new sugar/pygtk developer

2009-11-04 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Mike, Cool- Thanks for developing and posting this! On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Mike Major jmi...@bellsouth.net wrote: i started developing the activity back in june. at the time i was completely new to both sugar and python. i did a lot of searching on the sugarlabs and laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
FYI the .vmdk in soas04.zip halts with no text right after GRUB starts. Any suggestions for kernel parameters to try? Strawberry was quite different- the root was specified by some kind of hash code, was mounted rw (now it's ro) and the liveimage, quiet and rghb options were set. Blueberry has

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to virtual machines

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] (Please read) Re: Proposed Trac - Launchpad migration

2009-11-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
I have no experience with Launchpad, but am often frustrated by the performance of SL Trac. At my office we switched from Trac to Redmine for internal project development, since Trac's development seems to have slowed to a crawl. Provided a high priority is placed on migrating bug numbers and

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-28 Thread Wade Brainerd
+1 from me! Resume by Default inhibits learning the difference between Activity and Activity Instance which is a key computer concept. Back-porting to 0.84 and 0.86 sounds great to me; is the patch simple? -Wade On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 14

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: [Bugs] #1508 UNSP: confusing wording on download from Browse

2009-10-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
Yeah, Stop and Don't Stop sound best to me. Cancel is almost never an appropriate button; we should grep the codebase for it :) On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 13:32, Gabriel Eirea gei...@gmail.com wrote: How about Quit and Don't

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: [Bugs] #1508 UNSP: confusing wording on download from Browse

2009-10-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: To stop the activity now now you must cancel your ongoing download. [Cancel download] [Continue download] This sounds well thought out, but imagining the experience in my head makes me wonder a little. Two user perspectives:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: [Bugs] #1508 UNSP: confusing wording on download from Browse

2009-10-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 20:01, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: Since the Journal displays the progress bar as files are downloaded, wouldn't it be cool if Browse just handed the download off

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Zero-install-devel] Summary of the chat on #sugar-meeting

2009-10-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 21:27, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Dear z-i folks and sugar folks, Three members of the 0install.net community [1] met with several members of the Sugar community [2] yesterday to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design mockup of a different activity launcher

2009-10-18 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i agree with others that the new proposal isn't nearly as nice, or as much fun, as the current pulsing icon (though i think other aspects, like the close button, are good).  i think that avi is spot on when he says: Ok, seems

Re: [Sugar-devel] friendview.py

2009-10-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
Yeah, P2P activity sharing would be awesome. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac/Activity_Bundles says Activities are meant to be shared between children. If a child doesn't have the activity, it is automatically transfered to the child when he or she joins the shared activity.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design mockup of a different activity launcher

2009-10-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: What is the behavior for activities that have a long launch time (I am thinking for example of the first time you launch Turtle Art, when it has to generate a lot of artwork for the data directory)? Heh, the mockup

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design mockup of a different activity launcher

2009-10-17 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Eben, thanks for the feedback! On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvDdN1t-0yE I was in the code and have wanted to try this for awhile!  If anyone else

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-10-16 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 13 Oct 2009, at 15:29, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 05:35, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, we should still answer the question of the activity.info field...  Seems like there 3 options

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-15 Thread Wade Brainerd
I take two points from this exchange: #1 User interaction changes are always subjective. Patches, requests, suggestions, etc. should not be submitted with duh as a rationale. They should be backed up with a clear rationale; better yet, hard data. #2 The Sugar UI is not sacred. There needs to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:05 AM, DancesWithCars danceswithc...@gmail.com wrote: yes, what is you exec overview/ why are you proposing to discard .xo bundling? or is this an option? I don't think that we're discussing discarding .xo bundling. I think we're discussing augmenting .xo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strings missing in 0.86 r. 04_10_2009 ReadEtext

2009-10-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Carlo Falciola cfalci...@yahoo.it wrote: Wade, I agree on the point, anyway the string I referenced is not part of aany lesson and is already present in Pootle... see the attached image.. then if it should not being translated it would be better to purge from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Namespace for 0.84 updates to Browse and Chat?

2009-10-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Remains to see what existing versions of Sugar would do with a bundle with a dot in the version number. It's parsed as int(version) [1] - so it's not going to work well! Is there some reason that we are forced to patch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Live USB Creator (Fedora) and experimental SoaS builds

2009-10-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hear hear! BTW, I submitted a patch to LiveUSB creator to build a proper installer for the program; I'm not sure if it was ever rolled into the official version. Best, Wade On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: I've been unable to build any SoaS other than

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strings missing in 0.86 r. 04_10_2009 ReadEtext

2009-10-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Carlo, On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Carlo Falciola cfalci...@yahoo.it wrote: - Typing Turtle Most of comments strings: like: Hihowahyah! Ready to learn the secret of fast typing?\n Typing Turtle doesn't use the standard localization system for its lesson data: different keyboard

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO emulator for Linux

2009-10-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Walther, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Resources links to options for setting up Activity development environment on Windows, Linux and MacOS X. Briefly: For Linux hosts you can use native packages, jhbuild or a virtual machine. The best Windows and Mac option is VirtualBox. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Conozco Uruguay in karma

2009-10-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
Cool, can't wait to see the finished product. So far the code looks reasonably straightforward and intuitive (and I'm a JS neophyte). -Wade On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ze maria zemari...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I started a port of the activity Conozco Uruguay (available at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Talk at New Zealand PyCon : Support from dev team needed

2009-10-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Tim, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nzwrote: 1) What kinds of things are likely to be of great interest to the general python community? What made you get involved with Sugar? Perhaps I could sow those seeds in local developers' minds... Mostly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Talk at New Zealand PyCon : Support from dev team needed

2009-10-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Wade, On 5 Oct 2009, at 14:36, Wade Brainerd wrote: Install jhbuild or a SoaS VM and Adopt an activity. We have a page going which lists activities that are unmaintained and need to be adopted, with links

[Sugar-devel] Display a message when an activity fails to start

2009-10-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1447 Would love to get some testing on the latest patch! There was an occasional crash bug but it seems to be fixed now. Just make your activity fault during launch and see what happens. Thanks, Wade ___ Sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.86 Branching - Activity versions

2009-10-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: *Activity versions* As we use integers for activity versions (this really has to change for 0.88 with introducing minor versions), we need to cope for the famous: stable/unstable version issue. I would say to leave at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.86 Branching - Activity

2009-10-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Wade wrote: We have been striving to keep activity releases backwards compatible as far as possible; there should be no need to branch activities for sucrose releases. If a bug is found, sucrose can be updated to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-09-29 Thread Wade Brainerd
with any of these, let me know and I'll provide the patch. -Wade On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.comwrote: On 29 Sep 2009, at 14:00, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: I have a prototype patch which

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-09-28 Thread Wade Brainerd
list) I thought that's what host_version is for? - Bert - On 28.09.2009, at 02:40, Wade Brainerd wrote: Tentative patches posted to http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1442. An Alert when attempting to install the .xo bundle would be really nice, but this at least prevents the activity from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-09-28 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: My main concern is, how will most developers know what versions of Sugar their activity will work under? This is going to be an ever growing .info string that will need constant maintenance once added. Will it be a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Activity version compatibility

2009-09-28 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey Gary, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hmmm. So what happens when Sugar depreciates some API and breaks old activities? Say in a year or so when the core folks decide to remove the old toolbar API code? Or perhaps some of Telepathy and its API

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-28 Thread Wade Brainerd
I wouldn't mind seeing a custom PyGame for Sugar (let's call it sugargame). Ryan Gordon made a GTK backend for SDL which would allow the PyGame display to coexist with GTK widgets[1]. Also, Nirav Patel has written a sweet PyGame camera module which supports object tracking etc. There's probably

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-24 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Daniel, It sounds like you're advocating major architectural and process shifts to combat hypothetical problems. (Java? C#? I could see JavaScript perhaps :)) Most activities do not require custom binaries. Those that do have solved the problem within the .xo format. If you download

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-23 Thread Wade Brainerd
Sugar could report an error message on startup: This Activity contains executable code which was not compiled for this platform. Please contact the activity author for support. This would fall into the general category of displaying better error messages when activities fail to start. If ARM

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smile activity version 1

2009-09-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Tony, Sorry for taking so long to respond to this one. I had a similar problem in Colors! and solved it by adding a timer event while playback was running: 1350def start_update_timer(self): 1351if self.update_timer: 1352gobject.source_remove(self.update_timer) 1353

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-5

2009-04-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Michael, On 11 Apr 2009, at 06:48, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. One notable bug for XO 8.2 distro users, is that adding images from the Journal is currently broken (bumping into rainbow), adding images works fine on

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Proposal. To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar (in addition to Journal), I propose treat Activities as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in the Journal) is really exciting to me. To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their Journal entry directory*, not /home/user/Activities. Also, the default Activities should be present in the Journal,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs (was: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
I would really like to have an official mechanism for dealing with this, as it's preventing several of my activities from working on SoaS. I used to just include x86 Python 2.5 compiled modules in my bundles, but now we are supporting more architectures. One proposal is to have a build machine

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
in the UI? Best, Wade On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 8 Apr 2009, at 20:17, Wade Brainerd wrote: The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in the Journal) is really exciting to me. Yes, it's a right old lucky dip mess

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Terminal v25 (attention distro managers!!)

2009-04-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 22:55, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: Yeah, v24 introduced tabs. v25 is a bugfix of v24. Hmmm, it has been packaged for Fedora 11

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal oddity: metadata with no file?

2009-03-30 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 30 Mar 2009, at 17:27, Eben Eliason wrote: 2009/3/30 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 05:11:46PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: Only if something useful is stored. I was

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] StoryBuilder-14

2009-03-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
Awesome, thank you! On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4073 == Bundle == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/25998/xpi/story_builder-14.xo == NEWS == * Shrink screen

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Terminal v25 (attention distro managers!!)

2009-03-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4043 Please update to this new version ASAP. Terminal v24 will not start properly on a clean install of Sugar, when the terminalrc file is not present! == Bundle == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4043 == Source ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-26 Thread Wade Brainerd
xulrunner, since it's already a Sugar dependency. It shouldn't be significantly slower, but we should do some testing anyway. What do you all think? 2009/3/26 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: Just to be clear, this is a perfectly normal part of the GSoC application process. Last year

[Sugar-devel] ars technica

2009-03-26 Thread Wade Brainerd
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/sugar-labs-announces-new-version-of-sugar-learning-platform.ars Nice to see a positive article from Ars (if it is straight from the press release), since they panned just about everything OLPC did. BTW, the release mentions a mind map activity.

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