Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-15 Thread Manuel QuiƱones
2013/3/14 Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org: For example, what happens if a user who is on a proxy-free network types hello into the proxy configuration textbox? Does that break all networking? Yes, setting proxy mode to Manual then typing hello in the first input breaks networking in the current

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.org wrote: I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration I would say that this feature does not fit particularly nicely with some items of our guidelines:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Ajay Garg
Daniel, Your concerns are valid. All I can say that probably using an automated transparent proxy client-server setup is the answer, for getting the requirements met without bothering the kids. * The automatic mode can be set in the XO-images, via simple OOB scripts. * The automatic mode puts

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick theRadio enable checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return theirlaptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxyconfiguration could become support headache like this. Thinking in the same way, we must block

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the Radio enable checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their laptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. Trying right now I see: * The text is confusing: Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life [] Radio Checked is on or off? What means Radio? Is not clear * After uncheck the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible, then we should provide a solution. Has been a request for a long time, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:35:26 -0600 From: d...@laptop.org To: gonz...@laptop.org CC: alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; an...@activitycentral.com; alsr...@activitycentral.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration On Thu, Mar 14

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. Trying right now I see: * The text is confusing: Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life [] Radio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
I think this feature (proxy-config) is useful, just as the modem-config is, which is included now. dsd's brings a valid questioning of whether this kind of technical features should be included or not. I think this particular matter requires a broader discussion about how we could conciliate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread James Cameron
But with modem-config a child cannot stop normal operation. With proxy, the child can stop normal operation, in that no Browse will work with wrong proxy. I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. On Thu, Mar 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
Is it different from relying on a modem and having a wrong modem-config? I think there are scenarios where normal includes the proper proxy-config, otherwise browse won't work either. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: But with modem-config a child cannot

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. We can add a configuration to allow deployments to disable it. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/23/2012 03:05 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martingarycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalansrid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: If OLPC-AU

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 13:02 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/23/2012 03:05 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martingarycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalansrid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 19 January 2012

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of 2012-01-23 03:02:59 +0100: Do you think this functionality could be folded into the Network CP UI or are there a heap of inputs? We could make better use of Network CP horizontal space regarding text blocks, and gain some vertical space to reduce

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before that is useful information. Other deployments might have set a proxy in the build itself? To confirm, we do tell users to configure their proxy using

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before that is useful information. Other deployments might have set a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 01/18/2012 03:59 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/18/2012 03:59 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish Mangal Hi Anish, there have been discussions [1] on how this Feature works

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread Anish Mangal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose Network proxy configuration in Sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish Mangal Dextrose Project Manager Activity Central -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Simmons
Yes, Sugar definitely needs this. There are probably many schools that use proxy servers to control what the kids can browse, etc. and there needs to be a simple way to set these up. James Simmons On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Cameron
But don't forget that many deployments have solved this in build customisation, so check that what you do doesn't break what they do. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org