Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Caryl, I'm really sad you are not directing the committee's time table and activities, like last year. We should all thank you for your hard work. I'm also sorry you had no time to move forward with the funding activities, you promoted early this year. I agree and I hope everyone (every year) h

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Sebastian wrote, "That is a statement that shouldn't be done lightly. It casts doubt on the process you yourself led last year." As you well know we (you, Samson, and I) sent out multiple emails to make very sure everyone had an opportunity not only to vote but also to run for office, if they

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Dave, So far it looks like this year's election is still in your plate :D If you need to pass it on, please call openly in IAEP for help and/or leadership. However it goes, it would be very nice to keep community timely informed. Regards and blessings! Laura Victoria 2016-12-02 13:56 GMT-05:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 02/12/16 12:36, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I don't know who is in charge, Last time, you were in charge of the election. > but they should have made sure they sent several reminders of > deadlines to file for candidacy. In fact, was there ever an > announcement sent out to all of the membership a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Has anyone put together the equivalent of https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2015-2016-candidates for this year? Are there any candidate statements published in the wiki? regards. -walter On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: > Not sure what you are trying to say. Even

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Not sure what you are trying to say. Even after living, studying and working in the US (thank you Fulbright Schoolarships!) I still fail to understand how US citizens understand and act upon democracy :D I guess having a standar and logical caledar for every year's election will make this easier f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

I would assume they do wish to stand for re-election. The publicity on this has been terrible. I don't know who is in charge, but they should have made sure they sent several reminders of deadlines to file for candidacy. In fact, was there ever an announcement sent out to all of the membership a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2016-12-02 11:38 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : > > > On 2 December 2016 at 11:28, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> >> >> 2016-12-02 11:27 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : >> >>> >>> On 2 December 2016 at 11:24, Laura Vargas wrote: >>> Looks like we have 3 seats for 3 candidates :D >>> >>> 6 candidates,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 2 December 2016 at 11:28, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2016-12-02 11:27 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : > >> >> On 2 December 2016 at 11:24, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> Looks like we have 3 seats for 3 candidates :D >>> >> >> 6 candidates, assuming the 3 people in those 3 seats want to stand for >> re

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2016-12-02 11:27 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 2 December 2016 at 11:24, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> Looks like we have 3 seats for 3 candidates :D >> > > 6 candidates, assuming the 3 people in those 3 seats want to stand for > reeleection? > Why would you assume this? -- Laura V. I&D SomosA

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 2 December 2016 at 11:24, Laura Vargas wrote: > Looks like we have 3 seats for 3 candidates :D > 6 candidates, assuming the 3 people in those 3 seats want to stand for reeleection? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2016-12-02 11:03 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 2 December 2016 at 09:19, Walter Bender > wrote: > >> I have heard nothing from the Election/Membership committee about any >> update. > > > I hope my email last night could serve as such an update :) > Dave, I hope you read Ignacio and Samso

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 2 December 2016 at 09:19, Walter Bender wrote: > I have heard nothing from the Election/Membership committee about any > update. I hope my email last night could serve as such an update :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

I'm not going to be able to join, but Walter will cover the L10n topic. cjl On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > There is not much of an agenda. I will give an update on GCI and one i18n > project. The discussion proposed by Tony has been seemingly postponed until > we hear ba

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Adam, Since it is the last meeting of the year I thought maybe you need a space for wrapping financials. Regards, Laura 2016-12-02 9:19 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender : > There is not much of an agenda. I will give an update on GCI and one i18n > project. The discussion proposed by Tony has been seem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

There is not much of an agenda. I will give an update on GCI and one i18n project. The discussion proposed by Tony has been seemingly postponed until we hear back from Sameer. I have heard nothing from the Election/Membership committee about any update. regards. -walter (NOTE: 19UTC == 2PM Bosto

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Hi Walter, Is there a call and agenda for December meeting? Regards 2016-11-04 16:26 GMT-05:00 Sameer Verma : > Sorry, I couldn't make it. Too many meetings, plus OLPC SF Community > Summit begins this evening. > > Sameer > -- > Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Professor, Information Systems > San Francis

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Do you have any more specific objections? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Progress. Further progress will come after I speak with Bradley Kuhn in coming weeks, to understand has real-world recommendations on pacing/publishing financials, based on his extensive experiences with the ~40 NGO's he (as SFConservancy's de facto bookkeeper) supervises/supports. I hope he has t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi I went over Caryl's google doc again after re-reading the below, and I must say that I am no longer surprised by Adam's comments at the SLOB meeting on Friday; it seems that these clearly expressed points were not addressed in the text that Caryl submitted. Adam, please review the Google Doc w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi Caryl! On 12 May 2016 at 11:08, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> Dues are a bad idea! >> Sorry folks >> > > Please could you explain why you think this? > I'm keen to understand your concern :) -- Cheers Dave ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > > > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager Yes there is and I am sympathetic to those who find their wish to v

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: > Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Us volunteers write code, make releases, do user testing, etc. Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". Dues are how many if not most normally functioning nonprofits operate. I am co-founder and treasurer of a s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Dues are a bad idea! > Sorry folks > Please could you explain why you think this? -- Cheers Dave ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Dues are a bad idea! Sorry folks Caryl Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > >> On 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson wrote: >> Is a membership fee for volunteers even something that any other Free >> Software orgs do? GNOME doesn't seem to. > > > I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Is a membership fee for volunteers even something that any other Free > Software orgs do? GNOME doesn't seem to. > Its very common for clubs/nonprofits to do this. FSF, Conservancy, TUG, UKTUG run membership programs, and I also pay member dues to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

+ 1 to Sam P. Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 12:28:23 +1000 From: sam.parkins...@gmail.com To: la...@somosazucar.org CC: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; d...@lab6.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

I'm not a big fan of this idea. The SLOBs already seem to have some capital. But they seem to be scared to spend it. How much arguing have we done over the translation co-ordinator position? Something like a translation position would be great, but nobody has seemed to actually do anything

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi Basically a "Member" is a "significant and sustained" contributor to Sugar Labs; Members can run for election to the Oversight Board, vote in the elections for the Oversight Board, and suggest referenda. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members Adam, I think the list is at http://wiki.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

I'm new around here, and it's been interested to passively follow the discussion. Just to clarify... what is a member? I really want to contribute to this project, but I don't want to have to pay to work for free. :) On Wed, 11 May 2016 18:21:01 -0500 Dave Crossland wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 11 May 2016 at 15:35, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2016-05-12 2:08 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > >> >> On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among >>> activities/teams/projects etc. >> >> >> I think its essential that this be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 2:08 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among >> activities/teams/projects etc. > > > I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led directly to > further income, to grow t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among > activities/teams/projects etc. I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led directly to further income, to grow the project. _

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 2:03 GMT+08:00 Chris Leonard : > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> > >> Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), > the > >> Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >> Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), the >> Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44 (10% of the existing >> Project Fund on the Effective Da

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: > Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), the > Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44 (10% of the existing > Project Fund on the Effective Date), will be donated to Conservancy’s > general fund additional t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 0:56 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > > On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were >> cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: >> >> >> >> Total Income 10% of Total Income >> >> >> >> 2015 $9.028,56

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were > cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: > > > > Total Income 10% of Total Income > > > > 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 > 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 > 2013 $49.229,19 $4.922,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: Total Income 10% of Total Income 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 2013 $49.229,19 $4.922,92 2012 $208,26 $1.908,27 *Total* *$108.088,19* *$12.696,26* Al

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On May 11, 2016 11:19 AM, "Laura Vargas" wrote: > > 2016-05-08 0:20 GMT+08:00 Adam Holt : >> >> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: >>> > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: >>> > >>> > ... >>> > >>> >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-08 0:20 GMT+08:00 Adam Holt : > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Chris Leonard > wrote: > >> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard >> wrote: >> > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: >> > >> > ... >> > >> >> In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservanc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

OK. I'm with Samson on this. If we had the ability to spend small amounts on things for conferences and exhibitions like sticker materials, banners, or even pizza lunches for our booth volunteers so they wouldn't have to leave to go eat, we could do a better job of "selling" SugarLabs and its pr

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard > wrote: > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservancy (for > >> legal/financial/administrative service)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 7 May 2016 at 11:47, Chris Leonard wrote: > > I'm looking for an executed copy of the current SugarLabs-SFC FSA to > > confirm, unfortunately the wiki version looks at variance with the > > template, but as a wiki page, it has no "official" status. > > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_L

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: > > ... > >> In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservancy (for >> legal/financial/administrative service) is equal to 10% of all expenditures >> (outlays) each fiscal year, i.e

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: ... > In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservancy (for > legal/financial/administrative service) is equal to 10% of all expenditures > (outlays) each fiscal year, i.e. March 1st to end of February. > > (But someone else can correc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi Adam Thanks for the thoughtful comments, I've added them as comments in the doc to help close them out On 6 May 2016 at 12:06, Adam Holt wrote: > The financial spring cleaning CarylB, DaveC and others have worked hard on > within > https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcR

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi Caryl! Sorry to hear about that - best wishes for you and Ed that it all goes smoothly! :) On 5 May 2016 at 12:14, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi all... > I finally had a chance to check out the discussions about the motions I > have proposed. Unfortunately I don't really have the chance to do mu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Hi all... I finally had a chance to check out the discussions about the motions I have proposed. Unfortunately I don't really have the chance to do much commenting as I am restricted to communicating with my I phone for a while. After a great 10 days in WA and going to LinuxFestNW (on our own d

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

On 3 May 2016 at 09:37, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Why does the vision statement say "but not phones"? I run Sugarizer on my > iPhone and Ed's Android phone. There are some formatting issues but they > are easily overcome. In the real world of developing countries, children > are probably more likely

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

Why does the vision statement say "but not phones"? I run Sugarizer on my iPhone and Ed's Android phone. There are some formatting issues but they are easily overcome. In the real world of developing countries, children are probably more likely to have access to one of these tiny screens than an

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Thanks all for your input regarding today's SLOB meeting. I've finalized the agenda as per below, trying to accommodate time sensitive topics, the order in which topics have been raised, and a logical progression for the discussion. 1. Google Summer of Code status (Walter) -- time sensitive 2. I18

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Yes! Please accommodate Samson's request! I know how hard it is for him to have connectivity, Caryl From: d...@lab6.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 11:13:38 -0400 To: la...@somosazucar.org CC: lionel.la...@gmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; lio...@olpc-france.org; olpc-...@lists.laptop.org;

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

Hi On 31 March 2016 at 04:02, Samson Goddy wrote: > I will suggest that the samson proposal should be taken first in the > meeting tomorrow. the meeting is 8pm by nigerian time and the cyber > cafe i will using closes by 9pm. so i dont want to miss out. > On 1 April 2016 at 11:03, Laura Vargas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2016-03-31 8:20 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender : > Here is the current agenda: > > Agenda: > 1. Google Summer of Code status (Walter) > 2. Wiki Cleanup Party planning (Walter) > 3. Request from Edgar Quispe to attend Traducción e interpretación en las > lenguas originarias del Perú meeting in Lima (Walte

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

On 30 March 2016 at 21:27, Adam Holt wrote: > the above is just a proposal I think this is a very wise proposal :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel