Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Rob Savoye
Bert Freudenberg wrote: IMHO that activity should be a wrapper for Gnash, perhaps as a native GTK+ application, without the browser baggage (maybe such a stand-alone player does exist already?). Since the content is authored specifically As Gnash was created originally as the UI layer for a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, This might be of interest: Salasaga is a GTK/Gnome based IDE used to create eLearning for applications. With it, you take screenshots of your applications, add highlights, text and external images, then generate learning objects. Present output is in swf (flash) format.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread David Van Assche
This might be of interest: Salasaga is a GTK/Gnome based IDE used to create eLearning for applications. With it, you take screenshots of your applications, add highlights, text and external images, then generate learning objects. Present output is in swf (flash) format. It would certainly be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not specifically designed for it. Sugar runs simpler SWF applications just fine, through the Browser. They don't have to be designed for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Wade Brainerd wrote: I think the template should be built into and supported by the Sugar dev team, rather than something that has to be copied around. I strongly disagree. We should send the clearest possible message that SWF, a language with no good free spec and no good free interpreter,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not specifically designed for it. Sugar runs simpler SWF

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Rob Savoye
Wade Brainerd wrote: just talking about shipping and supporting a 200 line Gnash-based-activity launcher script, which can also launch Adobe if it happens to be installed. Assuming you can talk Adobe into giving you a standalone version of their plugin... - rob -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, When the primary mission - educating the world's least served children - comes into conflict with Software Freedom, which one wins? How do you explain that to the deployments? This is a fine question. Here's my shot at it. First, I think it would be a mistake to think that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-04 Thread Wade Brainerd
Personally, I don't believe that Sugar Labs the organization needs to be concerned with any of these four points. The question is whether the Sugar *software* is flexible enough to adapt to the needs of its users. Who are we to say what they should install, and what tools they should use to make