Hi, Sean
I think we are on the same page. The model of deployments (outside of
those nationally sponsored) has been a sponsor in the developed world
has supplied laptops to a school in the developing world. Sugar must
grow in the developed world market to continue the flow of sponsors
which
Hi Tony,
I for one certainly don't feel Sugar is only for children in developed
countries. I believe Sugar offers benefits for all children. I do think
that widespread use of Sugar in developed countries would encourage its use
in the developing world, for several reasons. One of these is the
I just found this interesting powerpoint from a few years ago. Slide 25 is
basically a summary of this discussion:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vpid=sitessrcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxtYXJrZXRsYWJzdWdhcnxneDo0Y2U3ODFjZDczMmU1Mjlh
Thanks,
Sam
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:16 AM Gonzalo Odiard
Thanks Sam. I never read that.
Have good points.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Sam P. sam.parkins...@gmail.com wrote:
I just found this interesting powerpoint from a few years ago. Slide 25
is basically a summary of this discussion:
Talking about good marketing, daniel g. siegel shared this today:
http://www.dgsiegel.net/news/2015_03_18-lego's_1981_ad_campaign
I think we should look at this creation moments in kids using Sugar,
and not limit that to programming only. There are a lot of creative,
wonderful,
and happy people
cc'ing the Marketing list - the one everyone forgets as soon as they
discuss marketing.
The MarketLab study we worked on back then confirmed what we already knew -
that Sugar's websites did not accompany teachers interested in Sugar, and
that Sugar absolutely needed a simple installer. They also
Tony,
I don't agree with your characterization of Sugar. We've never built
in any assumptions about connectivity into the GUI, core system, or
core activities (even the web activities all run off disk. The
decision to migrate to GTK3 was made for technical reasons -- which
you may disagree with
Sean,
I think you are getting at what I consider the heart of the problem.
SugarLabs sees Sugar as an alternative GUI for any computing device with
primary efficacy in the developed, internet-connected world. This goal
is understandable since the XOs have a limited life and so Sugar must be
Thanks Sameer, very good points,
a few comments/questions below
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
Interesting thread. I'll reply to Lionel's post, but my reply is more
of my own set of ideas and understanding.
Putting on my business school researcher hat:
Interesting thread. I'll reply to Lionel's post, but my reply is more
of my own set of ideas and understanding.
Putting on my business school researcher hat:
1) The eventual goal of this project should be to influence the
adoption of Sugar across the world. A person's attitude, combined with
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:
Thanks Sora for sharing. We are working in a questionnaire to get more
information
from the local deployments. If you agree, we can send it to you
to get more information from Haiti deployments.
Somehow missed
-france.org; sam...@greenfeld.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel
Greenfeld)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 03:31:50PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:20:02PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote:
On February 25, 2015 at 3:09 PM James Cameron qu
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 08:13:04PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
One other thing I should mention about some Sugar Activities… some
of them really lack color. [...]
This was possibly the design decision to support the colourless
display of the XO laptop when used outdoors, as well as colour
@lists.sugarlabs.org;
lio...@olpc-france.org; sam...@greenfeld.org
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 03:31:50PM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:20:02PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote:
On February 25, 2015 at 3:09 PM
: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:40:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)
From: s...@unleashkids.org
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: qu...@laptop.org; m...@jvonau.ca; h...@laptop.org;
i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org;
lio...@olpc-france.org
Thanks Sora for sharing. We are working in a questionnaire to get more
information
from the local deployments. If you agree, we can send it to you
to get more information from Haiti deployments.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org
wrote:
I just got
Friday, February 27, 2015 2:07 PM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard
godi...@sugarlabs.org:
Thanks Samuel for start this public discussion. I share some of your concerns,
and agree with your points.
I think we agree web activities is the way to move forward. We started to work
on thatÂ
for Sugar
The problem with partners is that any partner who has established a
history of making good decision will ask the same question Mr. Greenfeld
asked to start this thread. If they get the same response Dr. Bender gave
Mr. Greenfeld they take their money and go back home.
Several individuals
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote:
Here's a table Martin Dluhos generated of the start-up times on
XO-1s for different OS versions. It influenced our decision-making
in Haiti (we have a customized version of 12.1.0); I don't know
what they decided in Nepal,
Thanks for the fact-checking, James. Sorry I didn't correctly attribute
credit to you, Gonzalo.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote:
Here's a table Martin Dluhos generated of the start-up
I just got started with all of this in 2013, so my relationship with the
project is very different from many others on this list. I'm also not a
programmer. So this is just my perspective as a coordinator with schools
using XOs in Haiti.
I'm going to tackle the below item-by-item; looking forward
No worries.
My small amount of work on the XO-1 has made improvements, but more is
needed.
I hope Sugar Labs and community developers can continue to work on
these performance problems. If there's anything at OLPC blocking
that, please let me know.
Samuel's build of 14.1.0 is suitable for
I've worked with the project for some time, as a developer, teacher, and
teacher-trainer.
There have been triumphs and setbacks in the past, but I can't escape this
observation: when people have a choice, they choose not to use Sugar. For
many schools, they have what was donated and there is no
On 25.02.2015, at 13:22, Nick Doiron ndoi...@mapmeld.com wrote:
I've worked with the project for some time, as a developer, teacher, and
teacher-trainer.
There have been triumphs and setbacks in the past, but I can't escape this
observation: when people have a choice, they choose not to
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