Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Flavio, I'm not sure what you are flagging as a mistake exactly, there is quite a bit of confusion around android and html5, it means very different things to different people. So it would be good if you could clarify. And I'm not sure what you are proposing. Certainly everyone in this thread

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Flavio Danesse wrote: > My humble opinion (please stick to one): > > To put into perspective the opinion, I should remember that besides > developing for sugar since 2009, I am also a teacher in high school, so I've > been inside ceibal classrooms during this time.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Flavio Danesse wrote: > My humble opinion (please stick to one): > > To put into perspective the opinion, I should remember that besides > developing for sugar since 2009, I am also a teacher in high school, so I've > been inside ceibal classrooms during this time.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Flavio Danesse
My humble opinion (please stick to one): To put into perspective the opinion, I should remember that besides developing for sugar since 2009, I am also a teacher in high school, so I've been inside ceibal classrooms during this time. >From the beginning, I said I saw the fate of sugar linked to t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Oh, awesome, COPR seems to be exactly what we need. On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Narvaez > > > wrote: > > Going a bit off topic, but a pretty major issue I see in our workflow > with > > Fedora is that we don't have a good way to dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Going a bit off topic, but a pretty major issue I see in our workflow with > Fedora is that we don't have a good way to develop unstable Sugar on a > stable Fedora. Rawhide is, or at least is perceived as, unstable. And I'm > not sure what wo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Is 3D support for the BBB not planned/possible? I know we don't require it > at the moment but it would be nice to have in the future (and it *might* > speed up things even with the current software...). It's only available via a closed sour

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Yeah, my target here is development and testing, not final users. Basically I'm talking about what Gonzalo has been doing for 0.100. We could automate that work, it just feels a bit wrong to me because it's not using the normal Fedora infrastructure... On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Walter Bender wr

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Going a bit off topic, but a pretty major issue I see in our workflow with > Fedora is that we don't have a good way to develop unstable Sugar on a > stable Fedora. Rawhide is, or at least is perceived as, unstable. And I'm > not sure what wo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Sorry for the top posting, quoting on gmail on iPhone is a pain. > > * I'm glad that you see some runway for the XO and I really hope you are > right, it would be awesome. I think even just the uncertainity is a big > issue for upstream devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Going a bit off topic, but a pretty major issue I see in our workflow with Fedora is that we don't have a good way to develop unstable Sugar on a stable Fedora. Rawhide is, or at least is perceived as, unstable. And I'm not sure what would be a good way to, for example, produce and distribute 0.100

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Is 3D support for the BBB not planned/possible? I know we don't require it at the moment but it would be nice to have in the future (and it *might* speed up things even with the current software...). On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Narva

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Do you know what's the status of graphics with the BeagleBone Black? Sugar on the BBB should work fine with the modesetting driver OOTB (I've still got some kernel bits to do in Fedora, 3.12 should be much better) as it doesn't need 3D. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Do you know what's the status of graphics with the BeagleBone Black? On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez > > > wrote: > > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson > > > > wrote: > >> > >> Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Thanks a lot for the feedback Peter. I will check these out. For the record, I was thinking about Sugar on Linux on Raspberry, not Android. On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez > > > wrote: > > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Sorry for the top posting, quoting on gmail on iPhone is a pain. * I'm glad that you see some runway for the XO and I really hope you are right, it would be awesome. I think even just the uncertainity is a big issue for upstream development at the moment. Not knowing if anyone is going to build F2

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Well, my impression is that at the moment we have a well defined educational vision and a pretty solid UX design based on it. What we lack is an hardware+software platform to run it on. So I don't think trying to find a solution for that is getting "bogged down", all the contrary. On Tuesday, 5 No

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

2013-11-03 Thread Outofindia
Thank you I will join in from DC Harriet _ Harriet Vidyasagar 1-301-442-8991 www.monsoongrey.com On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > We have a SLOB meeting scheduled for Monday, 4 November at 9AM EST > (2PM GMT). Please join