Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-07 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 8 November 2010 10:18, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: It's not just that. Your android phone has a lot of ram and a much faster cpu than the xo 1.0. And its java runtime is engineered especially for low memory usage. The xo 1.5 is much better. And python and sugar will

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Mike Dawson
Hi James, Well I've been working here in Afghanistan around 2 years on this one now. I am going to the schools, talking with kids, and meeting teachers etc. I live out here with not too many breaks back home! I have even gone to school in Kandahar... For those of us who are involved with OLPC

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I don't think you need to do any studies about whether kids want to customize their computers. This has been a constant message from deployments since day 1. The first thing kids did with the very first XOs fielded was slap stickers all over them to customize them. Unfortunately, kids have no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I don't think you need to do any studies about whether kids want to customize their computers. This has been a constant message from deployments since day 1. The first thing kids did with the very first XOs fielded was slap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:40:13PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I wonder how it will turn out this time, maybe we've finally moved past some of the old bugbears. This is exactly the core[one of not many, at least] problem of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I think we should let the kids customize their machines easily -- certainly to change the colors. Changing the colors is just editing /usr/share/themes/sugar-72/gtk-2.0/gtkrc in a safe and reasonably upgrade-friendly way, right?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Mike Dawson
Hi, I guess the crux of the issue is the link between the developers (of whom some are working on deployments and dealing with features that are important to them) and the ground out in places like here. If we want to create something more inclusive I'm sure a lot of deployments would like to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:33:35PM +, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:40:13PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 04:17:12PM +0800, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I wonder how it will turn out this time, maybe we've finally moved past some of the old bugbears.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 09:48:15PM +0430, Mike Dawson wrote: Hi, I guess the crux of the issue is the link between the developers (of whom some are working on deployments and dealing with features that are important to them) and the ground out in places like here. If we want to create

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm not certain that editing the existing gtkrc will be sufficient (although it would certainly be a good start). As my history briefly explained, Sugar was not designed to be 'colored' in the sorts of ways a kid might want. (We might care whether the text/icons are easily readable; they might

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Here's a mockup image using a blurred drop shadow for the icons and a simple wood texture desktop, yes it looks rather pretty, but it would consume perhaps 10% of memory on an XO-1, redraws and switching views would

[Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-01 Thread Mike Dawson
Hi All, Following on from: http://codewiz.org/wiki/blog/2010/03#mon-mar-8--children-want-sugar-084-for-the-wrong-reasons The most popular request on the ground here follows from the same thing that kids will do with any device that they feel ownership of: let's make it colourful. It would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-01 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 02:48:57PM +0430, Mike Dawson wrote: let's make it colourful. It would be great if they could choose their own colours for the grays that are currently around at the moment. Between three and 15 hours work, to add a control panel for configuring those colours, and then

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-01 Thread Mike Dawson
Is that bountysource.com ? I guess this looks like we're talking about a week of work to get it done. I will check out these bounty sites this evening - but mine is up there? Other deployments? We all want it... Isn't $100 if you're on the ground pretty good value just for the peace and quiet

Re: [Sugar-devel] Appearance Customization

2010-11-01 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 03:58:58PM +0430, Mike Dawson wrote: Is that bountysource.com ? I don't know, sorry. I guess this looks like we're talking about a week of work to get it done. That's just my estimate, others may differ. I will check out these bounty sites this evening - but mine