Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-08-03 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). Every activity author should not be inventing various implementations of a book shelf UI concepts for dealing with a monoculture 'collection' of objects.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 04:17, Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com wrote: Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). Every activity author should not be inventing various implementations of a book shelf UI concepts for dealing with a monoculture 'collection' of objects.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-31 Thread Samuel Klein
Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). Every activity author should not be inventing various implementations of a book shelf UI concepts for dealing with a monoculture 'collection' of objects. Imagine if I wanted to put together a 'collection' of Physics

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 17:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:24:33PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 05:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:53:33AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: The term content bundles is still pretty wooly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:56:40PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 17:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:24:33PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 05:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:53:33AM +0100,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 17:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:24:33PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 25 Jul 2009, at 05:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:53:33AM

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-26 Thread Gary C Martin
On 26 Jul 2009, at 20:16, Eben Eliason wrote: I've always envisioned a Bundle activity which is a glorified tar/zip/other-bundle-format viewing and creation tool. With Bundle, it would be possible to open any such file in the Journal (including activity bundles, of course) to view its

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-25 Thread Jim Simmons
All, In my own emails when I refer to content bundles I am not referring to anything that Sugar Labs has proposed as a standard. I was just thinking about how to deal with the Children's Book Library project, how would I deal with the problem of distributing 2,000 books to children without

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-25 Thread NoiseEHC
A possible solution for 2. The catalog file should be a .html file with file:// links to the USB drive. If the kid opens the .html file in Browse and clicks on the link then it will be copied to the Journal and opened in Read. The .html file can have pictures. The only criterium is that the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Jim Simmons
Gary, I was thinking myself that enhancing Get Internet Archive Books to deal with local zip files of books as well as the Internet would be a possible approach. Currently GIAB produces and can be resumed from a Journal entry but does nothing with it. I might change that so it can be resumed

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, On 24 Jul 2009, at 15:21, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, I was thinking myself that enhancing Get Internet Archive Books to deal with local zip files of books as well as the Internet would be a possible approach. Currently GIAB produces and can be resumed from a Journal entry but does

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Sayamindu, On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:02, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: ..snip snip Hmmm. The down side of this is that you end up with 1 Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers. Yes, book cover images, is the big missing feature with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Eben, On 25 Jul 2009, at 02:24, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:53:33AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Eben, On 25 Jul 2009, at 02:24, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Jim Simmons
below and wonder if we need a different kind of bundle that can be used to distribute collections of books without requiring the child to install the whole collection. James Simmons Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:33:09 +0100 From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Book

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read To: Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com Cc: Sugar devel sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, OLPC Bookreader list bookrea...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 37e66200-fa85-4d24-aa3e-9e2a3a520

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Samuel Klein
of book) would make quite an accessible solution. Perhaps if there's interest, we can polish some of the above steps to make it even smoother in 0.86? Regards, --Gary Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:33:09 +0100 From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: ..snip snip Hmmm. The down side of this is that you end up with 1 Journal zip bundle holding a large number of books... So, I resume this zip bundle, pick one of the many books and start reading. I assume the single

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi James, On 23 Jul 2009, at 16:52, Jim Simmons wrote: Yesterday I had an email exchange with Scotty Auble of the Rural Design Collective project who have a list of 2,000 some odd books they want to distribute to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Jim Simmons
Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers. The problem I have with USB devices on the Journal is that they are listed in descending order by the date and time they were created. Even a few hundred books on a USB stick isn't all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Sayamindu, On 23 Jul 2009, at 19:02, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: ..snip snip Hmmm. The down side of this is that you end up with 1 Journal zip bundle holding a large number of books... So, I resume this zip

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:36, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, What Scotty wants is a listing that can be easily browsed, and which shows image files for book covers. Yes, book cover images, is the big missing feature with current Journal abilities when accessing external media (along with a Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Jim Simmons
Gary, If it wasn't clear (because I started this discussion with Scotty elsewhere) my idea was to put the ebooks, cover images, and Dublin core catalog in a Zip file, then make an Activity that could read that Zip file, generate a GUI catalog as a sortable table with images, etc, in it, then let

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 18:28, Gary C Martin wrote: Just wondering. If I had a USB stick with 2,000 pdf, plain text, etext, djvu, epub etc files on it... if they are at least reasonably well titled file names (lets say at least title, author), then a child can: 1). pop in the USB stick 2). goto

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Jul 2009, at 22:56, Jim Simmons wrote: Gary, If it wasn't clear (because I started this discussion with Scotty elsewhere) my idea was to put the ebooks, cover images, and Dublin core catalog in a Zip file, then make an Activity that could read that Zip file, generate a GUI catalog as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). That would be handy. I would prefer a standard for /how/ to cover these features that indivicual activities can implement though -- this could let

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:31:18PM -0400, Samuel Klein wrote: This makes perfect sense to me. In particular, Read should be able to read .xol files and display books contained within them if they are in a known/readable format. Adding support over time for alternatives to catalog.atom would

[Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-22 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, While looking at the existing Library Bundle mechanism, I was wondering if it would be possible to bypass the Browser altogether and launch the catalog inside Read itself (for library bundles that have ebooks in them). If we use a zip archive format, with the following internal layout, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-22 Thread Samuel Klein
This makes perfect sense to me. In particular, Read should be able to read .xol files and display books contained within them if they are in a known/readable format. Adding support over time for alternatives to catalog.atom would not be difficult (there are some learning-objects formats that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-07-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 Jul 2009, at 22:06, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, While looking at the existing Library Bundle mechanism, I was wondering if it would be possible to bypass the Browser altogether and launch the catalog inside Read itself (for library bundles that have ebooks in them). If we use a