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2009-07-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: PS. I think we need to come up with some better terminology to distinguish between collaboration sharing and journal sharing. That would make this much easier to talk about. I've been using the terms object push and object pull. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

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2009-07-06 Thread Eben Eliason
I like these terms, but I don't think they define the split I'm referring to. object-push and object-pull describe, sending an object to a friend and taking something from my friend's Journal respectively. Both of these types of sharing are object-sharing (the recipient gets the resulting object,

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2009-07-04 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Saturday 04 July 2009 12:31:48 am Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:13, Eben Eliason wrote: snip PS. I think we need to come up with some better terminology to distinguish between collaboration sharing

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2009-07-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 04 July 2009 12:31:48 am Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:13, Eben Eliason wrote: snip PS. I think we need to come up

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2009-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 06:08, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. I really hope to make it (my GSoC work depends

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2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide possibility to mark objects that can be shared(I guess sharing all local objects by default is not a nice idea). Right. This would

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2009-07-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide possibility to mark objects that can be shared(I guess sharing

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2009-07-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:29:56PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should

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2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Jul 2009, at 18:29, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide possibility

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2009-07-03 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: But in that case we should provide

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2009-07-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 3 Jul 2009, at 23:50, Gary C Martin wrote: On 3 Jul 2009, at 18:29, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On

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2009-07-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey

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2009-07-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:29:56PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM,

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2009-07-03 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Friday 03 July 2009 11:18:24 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47,

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2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:13, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Devils advocate here, so just because someone was late to the realtime party, they don't get to download an otherwise openly published piece of work that could be

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2009-07-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:18, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben

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2009-07-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 4 Jul 2009, at 03:13, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Devils advocate here, so just because someone was late to the realtime party, they don't get to

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2009-07-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm expecting you all to invent Linux groups any minute now. ^_^ On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at

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2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 06:08, Sascha Silbe wrote: [1] contains my thoughts on a VCS based datastore rewrite - a bit fleshed out now, but still not finished. The most important part for now is that I'd like to change the find() API call to take two parameters instead of one. I'm slightly

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2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/01/2009 03:48 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. The

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2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: I guess you mean this one with object preview? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Journal#10 For audio objects we might even be able to add a simple playback functionality here. I like the preview idea -

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2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:48:23AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this

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2009-07-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 15:43, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. The Library activity [2] has shown some interesting

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2009-07-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. The Library activity [2] has shown some interesting

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2009-07-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 15:43, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1]

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2009-07-01 Thread Michael Stone
Eben wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: All the people involved - please attend, would be awesome if UI designers would attend too. I'd love to join, though I'm not sure how much attention I can give the meeting while at work. I'll try to peek

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2009-07-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:48:23AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements

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2009-07-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 05:42:14PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:48:23AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this week we

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2009-07-01 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. I really hope to make it (my GSoC work depends on it - there's a lot of stuff to talk about and some decisions to make) but am not

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2009-06-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. The Library activity [2] has shown some interesting concepts as well. What are the common goals, how to move forward, where to invest? All the people involved - please attend, would be awesome