Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we had a discussion in irc, of which Walter posted the log. The current proposal on the table is On 31/10 * Release 0.100 * Create a branch * Discuss the 0.102 features * Schedule another 6 months cycle Other outcomes * Australia would be using 0.101 in some schools. I think that would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
[11:23] dnarvaez_: I think we need an irc discussion of the release schedule [11:23] email is too slow for a discussion [11:24] walterbender, +1, i just was thinking the same [11:24] I'm happy to have an irc discussion when I'm around [11:24] lets see if gonzalo_odiard is here? [11:24] dnarva

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: >> On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I think we should certainly *not* branch until

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 17:19, Walter Bender wrote: > We (Gonzalo and I) have some new features we'd like to land in 102. > How to proceed? Can we schedule an IRC discussion? Maybe just start a "0.102 features" email thread? The details of what you would like to land and a rough timeframe would be he

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia >> > release. If >> > anyone disagrees now i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:14, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Continuos development do not work well with downstream/upstream projects. > Well, I think that statement would need to be justified. > > We need go back to release cycles aligned with Fedora/Gnome if possible. > See, I'm not sure that's even p

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson wrote: > It depends if it's proper "continuous development" where it's all > small and incremental improvements with the platform being constantly > usable and features and it also depends on the end users of the > product. I agree and I don't think we ar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia > release. If > > anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. > > I think not forking should be fine as l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Hi, > > I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If > anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. I think not forking should be fine as long as people are happy to hold off from landing any new big featu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Hi, > > I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. > If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. > > Really, looking forward I think we should switch to continuous development > and never branch again. B

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. Really, looking forward I think we should switch to continuous development and never branch again. But that certainly will require more discussion. On 8 October 2013

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Chris Leonard
If a branch is going to be declared, we will need to address it in Pootle as well. Please advise. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 8 October 2013 00:43, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez >> wrote: >> > It sounds like it might b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 00:43, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback > from > > real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good > idea to > > "refocus" 0.100 around

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from > real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good idea to > "refocus" 0.100 around this deployment. So > > 1 Stay in bugfixing mode until January

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 4 October 2013 00:06, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 10:47:08AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > > For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch > and me: > > > > dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. > > heh me too a bit... > > somewhat lost > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 10:47:08AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch and me: > > dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. > heh me too a bit... > somewhat lost > I'm not sure if anyone depends on 0.100 being released soon bt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 3 October 2013 17:55, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback > from > > real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good > idea to > > "refocus" 0.100 around

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from > real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good idea to > "refocus" 0.100 around this deployment. So > > 1 Stay in bugfixing mode until Januar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good idea to "refocus" 0.100 around this deployment. So 1 Stay in bugfixing mode until January or when things are ready anyway. 2 Make sure web activities wor

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Bender
Sorry I was not able to join the earlier discussion. One data point: In Australia, we are planning to release Sugar 100 (plus some patches we hope to upstream to Sugar 102) to a few schools for extensive testing (the build we are calling 1B). The intention is a broader-based release of Sugar 100

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Manuel Quiñones
For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch and me: dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. heh me too a bit... somewhat lost I'm not sure if anyone depends on 0.100 being released soon btw dnarvaez, yeah on one hand, people had rpms to test just recently yeah,

[Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi, so the situation isn't changed much. Very few bug fixes landed, very few bug reports (which probably means little testing). I personally wouldn't feel comfortable releasing 0.100 or code freezing, so I tend to think we should just plan for 0.99.5 in another 4 weeks, on the 31 Oct. Thoughts?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 01:20 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If w

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Hello, > > we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much > development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I > think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6 > months after 0.98.

[Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6 months after 0.98.0, that would be the beginning of June, thus only 2 months and half