Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:51:09AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote: > About three years down the line, here's what I learnt: > > 1. Installed two IRC clients for mobile access: Riot.im and IRCCloud Just a point of clarification: Riot.im is a matrix client, not an IRC client. The team leading

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Yes. Please use webchat.freenode.net as it is better maintained. I'd be fine with changing any links. On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 07:57:00PM +, Bottersnike wrote: > With regards to [1]chat.sugarlabs.org, the version of qwebirc it runs is 10 > years out of date, and it has an SSL certificate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 08:02:42PM +, Bottersnike wrote: > >Quassel core is a server that keeps the backlog.  I don't need my > >computer on, and I can view the backlog from any device. > > Without being rude, most people don't have a spare server lying > around they can spin up an IRC

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Hi, It was me, back in 2018, started the conversation of switching to Gitter. [ http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html] Back then, I was as new to the community as Bottersnike, Prashant, and Srevin are now. I had just come from SymPy organisation that used

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

>Quassel core is a server that keeps the backlog. I don't need my >computer on, and I can view the backlog from any device. Without being rude, most people don't have a spare server lying around they can spin up an IRC backlog on, especially not people interested in reading backlogged messages

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Thanks for your thoughts. Quassel core is a server that keeps the backlog. I don't need my computer on, and I can view the backlog from any device. Yes, there are better onboarding experiences. However, if people want to talk with us, they'll know where to find us. We're here to get the job

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

With regards to chat.sugarlabs.org, the version of qwebirc it runs is 10 years out of date, and it has an SSL certificate that expired 4 years ago. I really don't think there's any reason it should ever be recommended to new users (over just using freenode) unless it receives a serious update. On

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

I think one of the main issues with IRC is the onboarding experience, or rather lack thereof. For new users, they're faced with an entirely blank screen, with no trivial way to search for past questions, see if a topic has been brought up before, or even just read through history to get a general

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Thanks for asking. For real-time presence messaging, please use IRC channel #sugar on freenode.net. Your choice of client. I use Quassel, as it keeps backlog. For store and forward messaging, please use the mailing list. Your choice of client. You'll get a voice on choice of tools once

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Hi Alex, Yes I have used IRC before and I still don't really like it. I have tried and used multiple IRC chat apps on my Android device and none of them worked stably. I completely understand your reasons of not using other platforms and I had read the few reasons mentioned in the docs. As per

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Please consider also using the freenode Matrix bridge to the IRC channels, which gives a lot of the advantages people seek from the locked-in, single-vendor, centralized, proprietary services. Mozilla has very recently gone through the process of re-evaluating their needs in this regard and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Srevin, Srevin Saju March 4, 2020 at 10:07 AM I agree to Prashant. To me Slack seems to be a viable option, and indeed popular too. But unfortunately due to historical reasons, we might not move to another platform. Nevertheless, it might be of interest to other

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Prashant, We also offer our own Sugar Labs specific IRC chat gateway, at http://chat.sugarlabs.org:9090/ I'd like to understand more fully why you believe IRC is hard for you to use. Is it hard because you've never used it before? Is it hard because you have no familiarity with it? IRC can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

I agree to Prashant. To me Slack seems to be a viable option, and indeed popular too. But unfortunately due to historical reasons, we might not move to another platform. Nevertheless, it might be of interest to other developers in the community I am sure this request must have been raised earlier

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Thanks a log for your response. I completely understand the transparency maintained by sugar and value it. I did not know about the gitter chat room as I didn't find it in the wiki. I will be happy to add it in the wiki if it isn't really there and I did not make a mistake. Thanks and regards,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Hi Prashant, 1. We have a gitter chat room which you can use, James is quite active there so he'll see your messages if you sent any. 2. IRC can be used on android devices and they're various clients, I use androirc

[Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Hi, I am sure this request must have been raised earlier as well. I wanted to ask if Sugar could create a communication channel on another platform such as a discord server, Slack or Telegram instead of IRC to make communication easier. The reason why others will be a better option: 1. The chats