Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 17:42, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Martin > Langhoff wrote: >> On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared >> after reboot". (Thread starts at >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html ) > > S

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared > after reboot". (Thread starts at > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html ) So, we have a couple of users who could send a sample datastore t

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-22 Thread Art Hunkins
er Bender" To: "Jim Simmons" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: > Martin, > > For what it's worth, I've experienced this running

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-22 Thread Walter Bender
y.  I > regret to say that I've done this a few times. I do this all the time and have never had a Journal corruption error in Xephyr. Curious. -walter > James Simmons > > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:56:17 +0200 >> From: Martin Langhoff >> Subject: [Sugar-devel]

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-21 Thread Gary C Martin
On 21 Aug 2009, at 07:23, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Jim Simmons > wrote: >> For what it's worth, I've experienced this running the Sugar test >> environment in both Fedora 10 and 11. It would not seem to be >> specific to .82. The way to reproduce the problem i

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:08, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:13:42PM -0500, Jim Simmons wrote: > >> The way to reproduce the problem is to run the Sugar >> environment in Xephyr (sugar-emulator).  Do some stuff, then instead >> of shutting down cleanly click on the "close" button

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-21 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:13:42PM -0500, Jim Simmons wrote: The way to reproduce the problem is to run the Sugar environment in Xephyr (sugar-emulator). Do some stuff, then instead of shutting down cleanly click on the "close" button on the Xephyr window. This happened a lot to me as well. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : >> Should be kept in a subdir in there, from: > > Damn! I wish I had known about this! So 3 old dirs are kept - excellent. > >> But anyway, the failure to read the DS would be in the first boot >> where the journal appears empty, not in the boo

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > Should be kept in a subdir in there, from: Damn! I wish I had known about this! So 3 old dirs are kept - excellent. > But anyway, the failure to read the DS would be in the first boot > where the journal appears empty, not in the boot where the DS index > got corrupted.

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : >> 2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : >>> 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to >>> >>> The ones on the ramdisk? :-

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:36:44AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > > 2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : > >> 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > >>> Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after > >>> the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be ab

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > 2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : >> 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : >>> Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after >>> the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to >> >> The ones on the ramdisk? :-( > > Is ~/.sugar/default/logs in th

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Friday 21 August 2009 05:10:21 am Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : > > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > >> Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after > >> the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to > > > > The ones on the ramdisk? :

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Friday 21 August 2009 05:08:28 am Martin Langhoff wrote: > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > > Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after > > the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to > > The ones on the ramdisk? :-( I think ~/.sugar/default/logs

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff : > 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : >> Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after >> the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to > > The ones on the ramdisk? :-( Is ~/.sugar/default/logs in the ramdisk? This would be the first

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:23, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Jim Simmons wrote: >> For what it's worth, I've experienced this running the Sugar test >> environment in both Fedora 10 and 11.  It would not seem to be >> specific to .82.  The way to reproduce the problem i

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso : > Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after > the DS was "lost", there's lots of chances we are going to be able to The ones on the ramdisk? :-( m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:46, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Andrés Ambrois > wrote: >> I'll help in any way I can. Would an upload webservice similar to Sacha's for >> uploading the necessary datastore bits help? We can then distribute a simple >> cli tool that upload

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Jim Simmons wrote: > For what it's worth, I've experienced this running the Sugar test > environment in both Fedora 10 and 11.  It would not seem to be > specific to .82.  The way to reproduce the problem is to run the Sugar > environment in Xephyr (sugar-emulator)

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Andrés Ambrois wrote: > I'll help in any way I can. Would an upload webservice similar to Sacha's for > uploading the necessary datastore bits help? We can then distribute a simple > cli tool that uploads the data. Thanks! If Uy was using School Servers, this woul

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:40 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:56:17PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared >> after reboot". (Thread starts at >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:56:17PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared > after reboot". (Thread starts at > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html ) Hmm. I've two XOs with 8.2.1 being used by children of

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Thursday 20 August 2009 06:58:48 pm Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > Would be nice to have more details about the failure so we can both > > fix it and propose the best tool for the job. Maybe a ceibal jam > > volunteer with some linux knowledge w

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1

2009-08-20 Thread Jim Simmons
g 2009 18:56:17 +0200 > From: Martin Langhoff > Subject: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 >        users in Uy > To: OLPC Devel ,        Sugar-dev >         > Message-ID: >        <46a038f90908200956h436459f3j9fa7b29bb111d...@mail.gmail.com> > Co

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > How do you envision the UI of the tool that will recover the JEBs? We don't need many words there :-) all we need is - A listing of Journals available (by date - the numbers after 'datastore' are epoch seconds IIRC) - if there's only one, sk

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 18:56, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared > after reboot". (Thread starts at > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html ) > > This reminds me a lot of the issues we saw earlier in developmen

[Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On olpc-sur we're seeing reports of "my journal contents disappeared after reboot". (Thread starts at http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004177.html ) This reminds me a lot of the issues we saw earlier in development of what became 8.2.x -- if for any reason Sugar doesn't like