Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote: Morgan Collett wrote: Also don't blame avahi for the fact that we send out updates every time you alt-tab between shared activities, so that your icon can jump to the appropriate snowflake on everyone else's Neighborhood

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: My suggestions: DNS-SD and libepc (http://live.gnome.org/libepc/). There's no need for Sugar-specific solutions here; we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/4489030/4489031/04489571.pdf?temp=x I don't want adventure. I want something old and safe ;-) Maybe we can fake this with good old DNS lookups - but those will fail

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: 'd like to read that paper (anyone got access to IEEE pubs?) http://radian.org/~krstic/krebs-sd.pdf -- Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu | http://radian.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 14:18, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@laptop.org wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: My suggestions: DNS-SD and libepc

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: My suggestions: DNS-SD and libepc (http://live.gnome.org/libepc/). There's no need for Sugar-specific solutions here; we just need to use existing standard solutions. Yep - I want existing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
C. Scott Ananian wrote: When I read the Zeroconf book, I got the impression that the _standard_ was carefully designed to minimize needless broadcasts and scale well in real scenarios. I can't comment on the current Avahi _implementation_ though. This is true for wired networks; not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Morgan Collett wrote: Also don't blame avahi for the fact that we send out updates every time you alt-tab between shared activities, so that your icon can jump to the appropriate snowflake on everyone else's Neighborhood Views... as well as sending who joined and left... Mature GUIs have a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Service announcement scheme - (Re: A small request.)

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: 802.11s is not simple, nor safe. lol. That's right. Now, you are talking about DNS-SD without mDNS. Spent some good time reading up on both, and DNS-SD sounds good for what we're trying to do. Everybody uses them